All due respect, you make it sound like there was some premeditated collusion with DL management to specifically harm Delta pilots. Do you really think Wychor went into those negotiations, guns blazing, demanding that Richard Anderson "give" him and his pilots this deal, Delta pilots be damned? This really isn't any kind of windfall for us. Why do you think we overwhelmingly voted in such a crappy TA? The alternative was certain death. We felt this choice was the lesser of the two evils.

It is my understanding that when all parties were on the way to DC, DL had already made up their mind to shut this place down. They have specifically said (true or not) that what made us so much more expensive than other DCI carriers was the longevity of our senior pilots. That was their biggest "gripe" that they couldnt live with going forward. With the help of Moak, the deal was crafted to address that "longevity problem" relative to other DCI carriers without kicking everyone out on the street without a job. This was an 11th hour hail mary. There wasnt time to go back and ask for anything else or bring anyone else to the table. Im not Wychor and can't get inside his head, but I doubt very highly that he did anything to intentionally snub DL pilots. Time was of the essence. These are the terms your management demanded of us in order to secure their continued financial support of this company. In exchange, they agreed to throw us a bone to keep us from stagnating at Pinnacle and becoming "too expensive".

We signed a 7 year concessionary agreement based on the bridge agreement and the SSP. Delta suddenly canceling it and shutting down Pinnacle because they want to, is defrauding the Pinnacle pilots. Delta would not have signed the Bridge agreement if they didn't plan to keep Pinnacle around for 7 years, they're not that stupid. If that's the case we can sue for punitive damages and every Pinnacle pilot can retire.

Most of this thread is based on the stupid premise that they hired Gumm to shutdown Comair, when John Bendoraitis, if he hadn't found a better job at Frontier, would have been the shutdown CEO of Comair.

So you should be hoping thats happens then, right?

Read post #32 in this thread.

Maybe you should have read the agreement better before you voted on it. It is right there in the agreement. There is no fraud going on. If I can find everyone else can.

Rule #1 in CEO/Management training. Never sign a contract you can't break. Ever since deregulation airline management have been getting smarter with their lawyers on how to write contracts that sound good, but in the end only benefits them.

Then again, this contract was either a bullet in the face or jump off a cliff...I guess we are all waiting to see if we survive the fall. Only time will tell.

The difference is that Coke, et al. are not negotiating to erode the Delta pilots' exclusive bargaining position with Delta Air Lines.

But you knew that.

You've read it and you don't understand it. Section 1. c. i., has to do with section 1 of your CBA. How you should read the bridge agreement is this way:
Delta will operate 81 CRJ 900's at Pinnacle or "NewCo". Unless
i. Delta pilots recapture scope by eliminating the affiliate language in Section 1 of the DALPA CBA.
ii. Pinnacle pilots throw out ALPA
ii. 7 years and 6 months is up.

d. A pilot wild cat strike or another act of God.

Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.

Do we know for sure DALPA wasn't asked? But said "No that's fine. We don't need to be there."?