Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1342856)

Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1342856)

Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1342856)

Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.

Originally Posted by BIGRIG (Post 1342919)

Do we know for sure DALPA wasn't asked? But said "No that's fine. We don't need to be there."?

Originally Posted by legend (Post 1342939)

What are you so worried about?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1342947)

Yes. They were completely unaware of the negotiations. I've verified that with the MEC.

Originally Posted by legend (Post 1343024)

Our mec chair and your mec chair talked about it so they knew. I verified that as well.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1343027)

He forgot to tell the rest of the MEC, then.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1342948)

The main concern is that if DAL management is comfortable doing this, they may not have a problem doing the same when it comes to negotiating the shared flying with Virgin Atlantic. What precedent does it set?

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1342856)

Here's what I've decided:
1) The only pilot group Delta Air Lines should be negotiating with is Delta pilots.
Totally agree but you all sold out on scope a long time ago. Now sleep in the bed YOU made.

2) Pinnacle's MEC purposely and maliciously cut DALPA out of the negotiations. If Pinnacle pilots said, "hey, Delta, we'd like DALPA to be here," no way that request would have been denied.
This is your conspiracy theory. Until I see an email from DALPA agreeing with your conspiracy theory. I'll file this in the cabinet next to the Sandy Hook crisis actors, file.
3) If you can't understand why this is a bad precedent going forward, I have some oceanfront property to sell you.
Refer to my response to question 1
4) Your actions will have adverse consequences on your career.
and
It's a better action than when you sold out your scope. I've been here over 13 years. The SSP will take 3+ years to get to my seniority number. It was a useless gesture on Delta's part. I'll be at another company long before I get the opportunity to be at your blessed Delta.
5) The pilots who do get hired at Delta (if any do) will have to overcome the black cloud over their heads as a result of their choices.
The black cloud will only be associated with the 1 per-centers like yourself. I have been in this industry too long to give a **** about you being a little grump in the left seat. My friends that have flowed have never met anyone with your attitude. As I stated, you're the 1 per-center of the group that everyone else has to deal with.