There are probably more pilots at Delta that have never heard of Pinnacle than actually care about this bridge agreement. I also have a hard time believing any mature professional aviator is going to give any Pinnacle pilot a hard time regardless of how this all went down.

So.....Delta Pilots will blame Pinnacle pilots for something that ALPA national handled in a negative way?

Sounds like National dropped the ball.


Glad to see that professionalism is alive and well.

Yeah, XJ is to blame........

Bastards

No that guy is just moronic or trying to start a fire with no fuel

That is a completely different relationship that DL has with VS vs us at Pinnacle. The meat and potatoes of this bridge agreement is about Pinnacle pilots getting jobs at Delta. This agreement doesnt set any precedent with regard to int'l codeshare/joint venture partners that wasn't already present before it. It doesn't violate your scope clause at all.

Furthermore, Delta has no standing to exert the same kind of power over VS as it does with us. DL wants/needs VS because they want/need acces to Heathrow. They can't whipsaw VS with anyone else. DL doesn't need Pinnacle, per se. We are quite disposable. That being said, since we will now be a wholly owned subsidiary again, does DL not have the right to negotiate with our MEC directly?

1) Fair point. However, the game changes when they take possession of another airline and make demands on said airline's pilot wages with the threat of liquidation.

2) That is complete BS!!! And it makes no sense whatsoever as there is nothing to be gained by doing so.

3) Be that as it may, the sky isn't falling. Get better language in your own CBA if you're that concerned.

4) Some food for thought; every Pinnacle pilot's career doesn't include Delta. Consider that before you start spouting off about consequences.
And...
5) If by black cloud, you mean you stewing in your left seat because an ex Pinnacle pilot is sitting next to you, fine. Pout until your heart's content. Just dont get into a "heated argument" about it and fly past your destination airport or anything.

Purple Drank is verrrry junior. He won't be seeing a DL left seat until almost when the 9E SSP people have it available to them.

He's also permanently angry. A pile of DL people have him on their ignore list.

So remind me again how it wouldn't hurt Delta pilots if we owed 5-7 years of wages to PNCL pilots? I can't wait for the GoJet high fiving when they take your 81 900s and "The Closer" is their COO.

Enjoy Ryan. He's a good guy.

Where does it say delta pilots owe pinnacle pilots money in wages? Hittin the crack pipe kinda early tonight on the sailboat eh? :rolleyes:

I can just imagine Delta absorbing the training costs for 810 pilots to fly an airplane new to Go Jets.