This thread is getting stupid, the bottom line is Pinnacle or its successor is going to be around for at least as long as the bridge agreement.

Agree. Besides it is "drifting."

I wouldn't bash delta pilots for doing what's in their best interest, but there seems to be a lot of people that are bashing pinnacle pilots for voting in their best interests.

Not going to get an argument from me about who is to blame for the position of the airline. What I have a problem with is a Delta pilot saying we are taking money out of their pay checks or profit sharing checks which come from a contract they overwhelmingly ratified while allowing this to happen at a regional carrier. We only fly what Delta management gives us. To say that Pinnacle pilots are going to be hated if they fly at Delta or that we are taking something from a Delta pilot is just silly.

Pinnacle pilots voted for their jobs, whether justified or not, the same as a Delta pilot voted to scope out their flying. Don't tell me I'm taking money from you (not directed at you DL31), after you voted for the contract that allows this to happen.

So at Mesa when I flew all 3 RJ variants in a single day, it was just a fluke? The issues you guys have aren't an issue that any single carrier would face. The only required training is 3 landings to go from the 7 to the 9. And that's only for Captains. It's gotten that hard to go from a manual bleed panel to an automated bleed panel in the last 3 years huh?

And for the record, I'll be very happy flying your airplanes with a Delta ID someday. The product of outsourcing has nothing to do with the newest generation of Delta pilots. Had we been the majority, I assure you, you'd be a Delta pilot already.

I understand what your saying. I was a 9E P2P rep until I left at the end of September. There are way to many people out there trying to blame other groups for stuff.

9E management screwed up their company. Delta took advantage of that fact and forced the bankruptcy. In bankruptcy Delta to advantage of the bad position the pilots were in to get rid of the rest of the -200s that they needed to get rid of.

Its not Delta pilots fault that Delta management did what they did just its not 9E pilots fault for what happened to them. If a Delta pilot gives a 9E guy a hard time then that guy is a tool. Same goes the other way around.

When are we going to stop fighting and blaming each other and blame the people actually making the decisions? I hope that 9E stays around. I have a lot of friends there and I don't want to see bad things happen to them. I also fully support my friends at Delta as they try to fix the regional mess that mainline created.

Is there any official news release or viewable document anywhere that can verify the validity of this claim? It doesn't surprise me at all if it's true, but I've found nothing.

successfull? that depends....Ask DAL and i will bet they would say that they are very successful with managing the regionals(they met their goals) What pilots call successfful and what DAL calls successful are two completely differant things. Whipsaw against other regionals...against mainline...used as a tool for ac purchases and early returns.

1) Yes.

Everthing else is complete bs. To all pinnacle/mesaba/colgan pilots, completely ignore this guy. Once you are on the list you are in the club. No one puts up this type of crap. We treat every DAL pilot the same and there are no hyphenated DAL pilots.

Compared to the successful Skywest, trans states etc are run, I still stand by my statement. Yes delta does what it sees fit and doesn't have the foresight or the integrity to manage a regional correctly. Just be glad they don't run the different fleets at mainline like they manage regionals.