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02-09-2013 | 05:59 AM

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From: Airbus button pusher

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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs

I don't understand how some people can justify staying at a regional considering what has happened to that sector of the industry the past few years (and what's to come). I would think sucking it up at first year pay at a CAREER AIRLINE is easier than being unemployed and having to go to ANOTHER regional to stay current while you try to get hired at a MAJOR.

Dont say "it can't happen", look at COMAIR

PS Im not trying to cast stones just offering my humble opinion

^^^^ this! U seem smart u must have flown a Saab!

02-09-2013 | 06:10 AM

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I think you're overestmating by a large margin how many of the super senior types are actually hireable.

How many are we talking about here?

The pre merger 9E list only has about 230 at the 10 years and above mark.

Lets say half are "unhireable", that's only 115 pilots left as dead meat on the accountants list. They probably worked this into their projections.

(XJ had about 400 at the 10 years and above mark and I doubt a big percentage are "unhireable".)

02-09-2013 | 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I think you're overestmating by a large margin how many of the super senior types are actually hireable.

I'm leaving as soon as I can. I just hope it will be to Delta first. But I'm leaving just the same.

02-09-2013 | 12:58 PM

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Why? Why have CAs and FOs topped out at 12th year and 4th year pay, when GoJets can do it cheaper with lower longevity too?

Pinnacle was the vehicle for Delta to introduce a cheaper and crappier contract model on the industry. This is the camel's a$$ hole under the tent.

02-09-2013 | 01:17 PM

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Pinnacle was the vehicle for Delta to introduce a cheaper and crappier contract model on the industry. This is the camel's a$$ hole under the tent.

You could have voted no instead of becoming that vehicle.

02-09-2013 | 02:01 PM

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You could have voted no instead of becoming that vehicle.

Change that you to the pilot group. Yes I know the percentage of it passing but you can't assume who voted what and how. Pointing fingers isn't nice shy

02-09-2013 | 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saabs

Change that you to the pilot group. Yes I know the percentage of it passing but you can't assume who voted what and how. Pointing fingers isn't nice shy

My bad. I should have written the 85%.

02-09-2013 | 02:56 PM

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Once Delta owns PCL they are going to pump money into them and PCL is going to buy VX. Which will increase Delta's presence on the West Coast all while keeping labor costs down since they will be PCL employees not Delta employees. You laugh but it could happen.