It is not like they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. If they wanted to hire more experienced pilots, they would. They want cheap labor, so they get what they pay for.

 

Nor do they need to know those things either. A huge risk?.... now you're just exaggerating. We're not performing brain surgery here those things take 2 weeks to learn in systems (which is a small cost) and a good lesson or two in the sim. This isn't million dollar training per person like an astronaut. It's the cost of doing business on their part. A measly $4-5 bucks on top of what 1st yr pay is at most regionals is not going to be felt to the point that they need to shut down.

 

Of course its a risk. A pilot with no prior 121 experience runs the risk of washing out of training. Also $4-$5 bucks on top may well shut a regional down. If the next regional is cheaper, they get the flying and your airline gets the middle finger. Just ask the Delta connection guys.

I doubt a "good lesson or two in the sim" will get you through a type rating either. Why don't you read the garbage you write before you accuse me of exaggerating.

 

Of course they want cheap labor. Thats how they survive. They train you and pad your logbook with 121 time and you get to dump them when something bigger and better comes along. They use you, you use them. There is no loyalty on either side.
Look at it for what it is, a stepping stone to bigger and better things.

 

The lesson or two was in reference how to start an engine, get a feel for the powered flight controls etc. etc. that you mentioned these so called "CFI's" should know before coming to an airline. I'm done with this conversation clearly you think exactly opposite.

 

First year salary sucks period. I don't care what anyone says. You can't say a brand new FO vs. a furloughed pilot has no reason to complain. They all should complain about the first year pay. Obviously you feel worse and more sympathy for somebody that has to start at the bottom after years of hard service...

but what the heck the company sure has no problem painting the jets in wannabe major colors.

 

No-one said they should know it before coming to an airline but they certainly need to know it once they take the controls of a jet with 35 - 90 souls in the back.

Education is expensive in this country in case you didn't notice. A guy that has never fired up a turbine engine, never flown a pressurized cabin, never loaded an FMS, never used an autopilot, never seen a dispatch release, never flown in a 2 crew environment, never dealt with sterile cockpit procedures, CRM, New York approach, etc etc etc, I could go on and on.
Suddenly finds himself in the right seat of a multi million dollar airliner and a freshly printed type rating, and has the audacity to complain that his pay is low for the first year. Talk about an unappreciative ungrateful brat.

Should the regionals provide new hires with the penthouse suite in the Four Seasons during training too? Maybe the recruiting team should come to your house and interview when its convenient for you.

 

Can't beat a good internet argument. Especially when there's nothing decent on T.V.

 

eh. it looks alright. could have been worse.

 

So said person completes training and is on the line and successful and you have the audacity to call him/her an ungrateful brat because they dislike the fact that they are making less than the fry cook at a fast food restaurant? Your arugments are ridiculous nobody wants a penthouse suite in training (although it be nice) people are only asking for a "respectable" wage for the work they do. I guess that's asking for the world in your eyes though and they should just be grateful that they lucked out in getting to fly this magical RJ with it's powerful turbine engines, break through technological navigation equipment, and magical autopilots. GMAB either you epically trolled me or well you just need some misery company about starting over at a new airline.