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Old 04-05-2013 | 12:31 PM
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Was wondering about this. From my understanding you need 1200 hrs PIC time or you get this restriction put on your ATP. You can count Your PIC time and 50% of your SIC time to get to the 1200. So for me I have 830 hrs PIC time and 612 SIC so my totals are 830+ 306=1136 which means I would need 64 more PIC hrs or 128 hrs SIC time right?
I am taking my ATP ride in a couple of weeks and Im guessing I will have that placed on my certificate. Does that restriction go away as soon as you hit the 1200 hrs PIC time or do you need to take another checkride to have it disapear?
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Old 04-05-2013 | 12:33 PM
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What are you talking about willis?
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Old 04-05-2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
What are you talking about willis?
He's talking about 61.159(d).

You don't have to take another checkride, just present evidence that you meet ICAO requirements, and they'll remove the limitation.
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Old 04-05-2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
He's talking about 61.159(d).

You don't have to take another checkride, just present evidence that you meet ICAO requirements, and they'll remove the limitation.
Yeah, but he still needs 1500 TT, which it doesn't appear he has.
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Old 04-05-2013 | 02:09 PM
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First you need to meet the ATP requirements. If you get the ICAO restriction on your ATP, once you meet the ICAO requirements, go see your FAA boys at your local FSDO and they can take care of it.
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Old 04-05-2013 | 02:12 PM
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I actually just broke 1500 hrs. The discrepency comes from not logging PIC or SIC in instances such as all training done before I got my Private or training for my multi when I couldnt log PIC time, or a time when I flew a tailwheel with an instructor but dont have my tailwheel endorsement. That time is neither PIC or SIC but still counts toward total time
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Old 04-05-2013 | 02:37 PM
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restricted in the 48 states and day vfr only. i am sure the reserve captains are going to love you.
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Old 04-05-2013 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
restricted in the 48 states and day vfr only. i am sure the reserve captains are going to love you.
Day VFR?

No the ICAO limitation just means he can't fly international as a Captain.

It doesn't mean he can't fly as an FO...the ATP requirement is a US-only requirement, ICAO FO's still just need a commercial, and the US-only ATP still works for that.
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Originally Posted by buddies8
restricted in the 48 states and day vfr only. i am sure the reserve captains are going to love you.
Huh? Open a FAR/AIM and try again...
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Old 04-05-2013 | 04:01 PM
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ICAO standards doesn't require 1200 PIC, just 1200TT, AFAIK.
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