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embraer 04-19-2013 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1394171)
ORD is a different story man... lol! I said it can be done, not always but it can.

Yeah from what I can tell the staffing levels for FOs from best to worst go something like this:

MIA

NY

DFW

ORD

This based on how often reserves get called out in each base and how often swap/drop requests are approved. Of course this will all change as people flow to AA, upgrade, etc....

RJ Pilot 04-19-2013 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1394293)
Yeah from what I can tell the staffing levels for FOs from best to worst go something like this:

MIA

NY

DFW

ORD

This based on how often reserves get called out in each base and how often swap/drop requests are approved. Of course this will all change as people flow to AA, upgrade, etc....

People are flowing already since 2-3 months ago.

PilotJ3 04-19-2013 09:00 AM



Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1394293)
Yeah from what I can tell the staffing levels for FOs from best to worst go something like this:

MIA

NY

DFW

ORD

This based on how often reserves get called out in each base and how often swap/drop requests are approved. Of course this will all change as people flow to AA, upgrade, etc....

People are flowing already since 2-3 months ago.
Of you call flowing, just a couple of guys in two classes steadyz

I think he meant once the 824 starts to go. Then is when it will be some good movement.

RJ Pilot 04-19-2013 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1394357)
Of you call flowing, just a couple of guys in two classes steadyz

I think he meant once the 824 starts to go. Then is when it will be some good movement.

Yes, good movement. Rest assured the 824's will flow. Just like the fleet plan is around the corner!

WARich 04-20-2013 01:08 PM

Can someone from DFW base who is reserve and someone who is a line holder post their schedule for next month, or this month? Just to give an example of what to expect...

snippercr 04-20-2013 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1395150)
Can someone from DFW base who is reserve and someone who is a line holder post their schedule for next month, or this month? Just to give an example of what to expect...

You are going to get WAY to much variance to draw any usable conclusion from that...

RSV schedules are 11 days off: usually 4-6 days on, 2-3 off to equal 11 days off a month. You have the option of 'swapping' rsv days around, provided staffing is good. Some people like to do 6 on, 1 off, 6 on, 1 off, and then put a whole bunch of days off in a row. Me - I hate being on for more than 2 or 3 days so I generally try to swap so I have 2-3 on, 1 off, 2-3 on, 2 off, 2-3 on, 1 off etc. It's hit or miss if they approve it but more often than not I get something I want.

Hard lines for 4 day trips are usually 4 on, 3 off with weekends off going more senior. There are a fair number of 2 day back to backs and a few 3 day trip lines. Day trip lines are usually only a couple and go to the most senior non-commuters. 4 day trips can be traded with a pretty convenient trade program. Takes a few min to get used to it then it becomes you best friend ever. Great if you want specific overnights, dont want to fly with a DB captain, move your days off around so you get 6-7 off in a row, etc.

lakehouse 04-20-2013 05:57 PM

^^ very true about trip trade. However our union is shoving PBS down our throats to the tune of 9 million in owed costs per year. We can vote later this year if we want it or just give up 9 million. i hope to god with all the union corruption, people wakeup and see that we are better off taking the pay cut and not get pbs.

WARich 04-21-2013 04:08 AM

Thanks for the info...

RJ Pilot 04-21-2013 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1395243)
^^ very true about trip trade. However our union is shoving PBS down our throats to the tune of 9 million in owed costs per year. We can vote later this year if we want it or just give up 9 million. i hope to god with all the union corruption, people wakeup and see that we are better off taking the pay cut and not get pbs.

Accept PBS or no new planes for L-Eagle.

PilotJ3 04-21-2013 09:52 AM



Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1395243)
^^ very true about trip trade. However our union is shoving PBS down our throats to the tune of 9 million in owed costs per year. We can vote later this year if we want it or just give up 9 million. i hope to god with all the union corruption, people wakeup and see that we are better off taking the pay cut and not get pbs.

Accept PBS or no new planes for L-Eagle.
Apparently that's going to be the new carrot!! And the pilot group will say "yes!!! Bring the new planes!!!" And no planes will show up.

If we can just stand together just once, this would be the perfect time.


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