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WARich 04-06-2013 01:05 PM

Eagle life
 
Can someone give some examples of a typical trip with Eagle.....legs, times, typical hotel example, rest, etc.......

DoNotReset 04-06-2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1386042)
Can someone give some examples of a typical trip with Eagle.....legs, times, typical hotel example, rest, etc.......

I am not sure that there is anything typical to Eagle. Most regionals will be bout the same. The thing that makes the difference is the contract. As a new hire, you'd want to check out the reserve rules.

I am here for a while, 6 years, so it's not bad. I generally fly three day trips with weekends off. This gives me 15-16 days off a month. Sometimes I fly two day trips back to back with weekends off. I have a pretty good life but it takes some seniority to get it. The three day trips that I like are 5-2-3 and get done before 5 on the last day. I am doing two day trips this month and get done before noon on the second day. There are a lot of variances though, it depends on what you want to do. If you live in base it is a pretty good life.

PBS is supposed to come in a couple of years and it will change some things.

Minimums 04-06-2013 04:33 PM

Does Eagle have a registered guest program on there pass benefits? Just curious what kind of benefits the new Americans express carriers will end up with.

flysooner9 04-06-2013 04:47 PM

Also depends on the aircraft your on. CRJ generally has a lot longer legs and less per day. At Eagle your parents get passes as well as either your spouse or you get one registered companion.

Minimums 04-06-2013 04:59 PM

Thanks Sooner..What are the terms for the spouse and registered companion? Im assuming a fee/imputed income situation?

ERJF15 04-06-2013 06:42 PM

Man, all the regionals are the same. Just apply to all, get an interview, and then see if you'll like it or not. DoNotRest is accurate with his/her response. You'll have to eat crap every now and then, but so does a 20 year CA for FedEx, UPS, American, UniCal, Delta, etc. Jump on in...the water is choppy!

motormadness 04-06-2013 06:51 PM

I know it's going to depend on a lot of variables, but what aircraft and bases would a new person get today? Sooner said the CRJ typically has the longer segments, so does it go more senior? I understand you need to have night vision goggles to determine the future of Eagle, but I am just trying to get some information.

snippercr 04-06-2013 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Minimums (Post 1386095)
Does Eagle have a registered guest program on there pass benefits? Just curious what kind of benefits the new Americans express carriers will end up with.

Yes - at AMR Eagle, you can have EITHER a "Spouse/Domestic Partner" OR a "Registered Companion". IE girl/boyfriend can be a registered companion, then you get married and they can be a spouse, but you can no longer have a registered companion.

You get "Buddy Passes" after 2 years but they are a bit more expensive than regular non-rev, although they still board above "Other Eagle" (SKW,XJT,RAH), even on their own metal.

WARich 04-07-2013 06:15 AM

Thanks for the info....speaking of reserve rules (and I'm sure they are somewhere else on the board) can someone give a quick summary for Eagle? Also, are the hotels the Super 8 or more like the Courtyard?

bretthull 04-07-2013 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1386285)
Thanks for the info....speaking of reserve rules (and I'm sure they are somewhere else on the board) can someone give a quick summary for Eagle? Also, are the hotels the Super 8 or more like the Courtyard?

It really depends on your base. DFW and ORD reserves fly a good bit (rarely enough to break guarantee though). NY and MIA base guys do a lot of sitting around waiting for the phone to ring. Not a bad deal if you live in base but if you commute youll be incredibly bored. The day before you start you will bid on one of three things: open trips, 2 hours call out (RAP), or airport standby. Hotels arent bad, they are your typical 3 star.

babs 04-07-2013 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1386285)
Thanks for the info....speaking of reserve rules (and I'm sure they are somewhere else on the board) can someone give a quick summary for Eagle? Also, are the hotels the Super 8 or more like the Courtyard?

Although we have a few crappy hotels, I would say that 80-90% of our hotels are pretty nice. Just looking at a general list of our hotels we stay at the following:
Holiday Inn, Hyatt, Doubletree, Sheraton, Quality Inn and Suites, Radisson, La Quinta, Courtyard, Hilton, Wyndham, Best Western, Hampton, Crowne Plaza, and a few others.

Oh yeah, and reserve sucks. You have 11 days off and proffer for trips the day before. Live in base!

Mason32 04-07-2013 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 1386299)
Although we have a few crappy hotels, I would say that 80-90% of our hotels are pretty nice. Just looking at a general list of our hotels we stay at the following:
Holiday Inn, Hyatt, Doubletree, Sheraton, Quality Inn and Suites, Radisson, La Quinta, Courtyard, Hilton, Wyndham, Best Western, Hampton, Crowne Plaza, and a few others.

Oh yeah, and reserve sucks. You have 11 days off and proffer for trips the day before. Live in base!

Pretty nice? Compared to what? Where are the long and short locations?

From talking with guys who've been there for over a decade since you guys switched to an outside vendor for hotels the quality and locations have suffered.

Mason32 04-07-2013 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1386099)
Also depends on the aircraft your on. CRJ generally has a lot longer legs and less per day. At Eagle your parents get passes as well as either your spouse or you get one registered companion.

Last I checked AMR travel benefits also included your dependent children, and once qualified up to 13 named guests-buddy passes at a lower pass category.

Mason32 04-07-2013 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1386142)
Man, all the regionals are the same. Just apply to all, get an interview, and then see if you'll like it or not. DoNotRest is accurate with his/her response. You'll have to eat crap every now and then, but so does a 20 year CA for FedEx, UPS, American, UniCal, Delta, etc. Jump on in...the water is choppy!

No, they are not all the same. You'll realize this while at Eagle waiting for your inbound plane and can check schedules, lists for flights, pull releases, check open time, use SABRE and a whole bunch of other crap right from your PDA smartphone.... (AE piggy backed on our AA IT program) while the RAH, PNC, TSA guy next to you is watching the airport status screens to find his flight, or flight tracker on his PDA. Checking his schedule, swapping trips, and a host of other crap just isn't done at most regionals.

Like it or not, in terms of training and infrastructure Eagle is more like a major than other regionals. It also effects their costs

WARich 04-07-2013 08:15 AM

So Eagles a pretty nice regional to be at? All things considered....

Mason32 04-07-2013 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1386334)
So Eagles a pretty nice regional to be at? All things considered....

They all stink as far as I'm concerned. Eagle just stinks less.

RJ Pilot 04-07-2013 10:25 AM

Training at Eagle is the best out there.

WARich 04-07-2013 11:54 AM

how is seniority determined in the classes?

bcpilot 04-07-2013 01:09 PM

Didn't we already have a thread called " EAGLE LIFE" or was that closed & a new one started with fresh look...... Surprised none of the Eagle guys have brought it up yet & allowed numerous new threads on Eagle to open one after another, with everyone just asking the same basic questions.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-life-640.html

This thread has all the information one needs on eagle, the working of eagle over so many years, just that it has not been updated for over 2 months.......

Mods, you can merge this new thread in to the prev one & all the info will be current...... Again, it is just a suggestion & if it is OK with Eagle guys....

RyanP 04-07-2013 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1386449)
how is seniority determined in the classes?

First come, first serve..

Age.

(I think you should draw numbers out of a hat, but they didn't ask me.)

WARich 04-07-2013 04:43 PM

sorry I didn't look back 2 months in the posts to discover that some thread 2 months ago existed. It's one thing when you ask the same question in the same thread over and over again...but seriously a thread that no one has posted in in over 2-3 months....come on.....seriously??? .....and we know how the industry changes over 2 months.......just saying....but hey thanks for the great additional information bc.......

Shiner 04-09-2013 05:44 AM

Assuming all paperwork is done correctly and employers respond quickly, how long from pre-offer to a call for class?

snippercr 04-09-2013 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 1387392)
Assuming all paperwork is done correctly and employers respond quickly, how long from pre-offer to a call for class?

I interviewed middle July a couple years ago on a monday. At the end of the interview on monday, I was given the "pre offer" and asked if they could send out PRIA stuff. I was there as they faxed it off to my 1 previous/current employer. On the bus to the airport, I called my employer to check see if she got the PRIA stuff and was told it was already sent back, completed. A day or so later I called just to check make sure they got it and if there was anything they needed. They said my file was complete and would go to CA review board that friday. That friday, I had completely forgotten what day it was so when I am with my students and I see my phone ring from an unknown number, I send it to voice mail. After meeting with my students, it's AE recruitment telling me I have made it past CA review - they said it would probably be an Aug 1st class.

So, it was roughly 2 - 2 1/2 weeks from my actual interview to stepping foot into the cursed placed called the AE Training center...

Shiner 04-09-2013 08:23 AM

Thanks for the reply. Good info.



Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1387404)
stepping foot into the cursed placed called the AE Training center...

Care to elaborate? What happened?

jumpseat2024 04-09-2013 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 1386325)

Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1386099)
Also depends on the aircraft your on. CRJ generally has a lot longer legs and less per day. At Eagle your parents get passes as well as either your spouse or you get one registered companion.

Last I checked AMR travel benefits also included your dependent children, and once qualified up to 13 named guests-buddy passes at a lower pass category.

Is it 13? I always thought we only got 10 'buddies' at a time?

450knotOffice 04-09-2013 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by jumpseat2024 (Post 1387514)
Is it 13? I always thought we only got 10 'buddies' at a time?

Per the Travel Page in Jetnet:
If you're eligible for D3 travel, you may enroll up to 12 D3 guests in addition to your spouse, domestic partner, or registered companion, parents and dependent children.

Also, you get a 24 trip "Pass Bank" for those Travelers, to be distributed any way you choose.

WARich 04-09-2013 02:36 PM

how is standby on AA/AE? Are there usually seats on the typical low travel days? How often on AA traveling on vacation, etc, do you sit in First/Bus?

bretthull 04-09-2013 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1387721)
how is standby on AA/AE? Are there usually seats on the typical low travel days? How often on AA traveling on vacation, etc, do you sit in First/Bus?

Really depends on the destinations.

astec 04-09-2013 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1387524)
Per the Travel Page in Jetnet:
If you're eligible for D3 travel, you may enroll up to 12 D3 guests in addition to your spouse, domestic partner, or registered companion, parents and dependent children.

Also, you get a 24 trip "Pass Bank" for those Travelers, to be distributed any way you choose.

is that seperate of the 24 pass bank for D2's and D2p's?

flysooner9 04-09-2013 05:21 PM

Nope it all comes from one bank.

lakehouse 04-09-2013 06:24 PM

passes via eagle are really good for a regional. The checkin time, instead of seniority, makes it even better. If your flexible, most destinations are possible, and getting first is not that hard, esp. internationally.

The USAIR deal will most likely destroy this.

PilotJ3 04-09-2013 07:36 PM


passes via eagle are really good for a regional. The checkin time, instead of seniority, makes it even better. If your flexible, most destinations are possible, and getting first is not that hard, esp. internationally.

The USAIR deal will most likely destroy this.
Well, I have a good friend in PSA, their company sent emails stating they will change their non-rev travel rules like in AA. He was complaining because he don't pay for commuting and now he will.

Hopefully we will keep our system.

450knotOffice 04-09-2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1387740)
is that seperate of the 24 pass bank for D2's and D2p's?


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1387818)
Nope it all comes from one bank.

No it doesn't. C'mon, you know that. You work here. The D2's are unlimited. The employee and his/her spouse or registered companion are D2's and have unlimited travel privileges. No bank for that.

However, flysooner is correct with regard to the D2P's. They ARE included within the 24 pass trip bank.

wayway8 04-10-2013 12:19 AM

I thought the registered companion came out of the bank of 24. If you have a spouse or domestic partner it's unlimited.

Moonwolf 04-10-2013 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1387860)
passes via eagle are really good for a regional. The chene, instead of seniority, makes it even better. If your flexible, most destinations are possible, and getting first is not that hard, esp. internationally.

The USAIR deal will most likely destroy this.

Really good? Common man. You guys pay to ride on your own airplane...you do not get guest passes after 5 years of employment or something like that. How is any of that really good?

PilotJ3 04-10-2013 04:42 AM



Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1387860)
passes via eagle are really good for a regional. The chene, instead of seniority, makes it even better. If your flexible, most destinations are possible, and getting first is not that hard, esp. internationally.

The USAIR deal will most likely destroy this.

Really good? Common man. You guys pay to ride on your own airplane...you do not get guest passes after 5 years of employment or something like that. How is any of that really good?
Guest passes are after 2 years, unlimited free coach at 5 years mark.

PilotJ3 04-10-2013 04:44 AM


I thought the registered companion came out of the bank of 24. If you have a spouse or domestic partner it's unlimited.
Correct!! Spouse is unlimited, but registered companion is out of the 24 bank.

Moonwolf 04-10-2013 04:44 AM

Oh did I mention you pay to fly you own airplane. Really good...pssh I'm still chuckling

RJ Pilot 04-10-2013 05:17 AM

AA nonrev system is the best out there hands down.

skyxbomb 04-10-2013 05:38 AM

Yea I love how I get left behind on AA because I have a tight connection home and show up 20 mins before departure and the gate agent won't list me. By the time I get thru the phone they'd just closed the flight. Or get left behind because they can't list more than one jumpseater even though there are 10 empty seats in the cabin. Oh and that one time where I was given jumpseat when there was an open first class. Luckily the AE captain was very nice and insisted on me taking first class when the gate agent was protesting against it.


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