She looks just like her mother ;)

ShyGuy's sister.

So I did Shy's mom? Whoda thunk it!O:-)

ShyGuy, I love you man. I mean it. I love you.

lmao....saved!!!!

At the job fair, DL was telling pilots that if your not pncl or compass, then don't expect a shot until 2015 at the earliest...so for the next 2 years or so, that's where the draw will be.

I would concur with this, had a buddy at Republic told the same thing, anything before 2015 is going almost exclusively to the Compass flows and pinnacle SSP. I assume you are referring to the WIA job fair. I've stated earlier, what I got out of the job fair from DL, was if you are pinnacle, there will be no jumping in front of the line, but expect DL to go through the entire list within 5 years, this can be up for debate as to what the "entire list" actually means, as the SSP states, and Im summarizing, you must be a CA at pinnacle to qualify for the SSP. So is the entire list in 5 years CA only, or CA & FO's?

- nice meme shy :D

The upper circle mgrs are saying everyone on the list will be interviewed and bad apples weeded out. Now, could they be floating this to stem the tide of people leaving? Sure. Or, it could be the hiring wave starting and DL getting ahead of the game

There still should be a handful of people esle where off the street, that is if they do the 60 a month like they say.

I agree, but it's very likely they are all going to be military, or those that are well connected. Delta is showing that there are perks if you take concessions and play nice; I use the term "perks" very loosely here.

Agreed, it will be tough but it should happen.

lol I see what you did there.

Does anybody know if there is a stipulation for the remaining Mesaba flows that says if Pinnacle is sold, the flow can be terminated? Just like the original flow through? That would put everybody on the list into the SSP. I thought I heard compass has something that says the flow can be renegotiated if they are sold again.

The magic 8 ball says: "Ask again later"

That is not how it played out in 2007. The military pilots have a bit of a catch 22 at the beginning of the wave. If they get out too early, they become not current. If they wait, they are obligated to serve and can't get free for an early class date.

Further, the regional guys (at least the ones I know) had been preparing and flying Delta passengers for so long that they kind of knew the right things to say and do to get hired. IMHO a good record flying for Delta means something.

The military pilots are a known pool of high qualified applicants. But, nowadays, so are pilots who have been serving Delta and flying Delta passengers for years.

If I were a military pilot, I would be equally concerned about regional competition. The statistics bear this out. You can improve your odds by getting involved either in semi management positions (ex LCA, Safety, CP) or volunteer work. It is easy to volunteer for something. Delta has Habitat builds all over the place, Heritage Foundation Museum, etc ... that's one way to become "well connected."

Anybody think there will be an announcement on Thursday as we come out of bankruptcy? I mean, at least another T-shirt?

Paid in full.

"A bigger slice of the sky. No, wait, smaller. Just kidding; bigger.... just not for you."

"Owned" would be politically correct and factual.

Recent hiring cycles have been 60% civilian and 40% military, trending toward more civilian.

Military pilots get more "cold calls" without recommendations than civilian do. In fact, the only civilian pilot that got a cold call that I know of was JP from 9E.

How about:

"Pinnacle. We put the "P" in Pwned."

All your base are simply the best.

I love it.

Somebody set us up the bankruptcy. You have no chance to upgrade, make your SIC time.

Sorry to sidetrack a little bit, and in the interest of not starting a new thread, can anyone help with a 9E jumpseat question.

I need to go from YYZ Toronto to DTW. On the date I'm looking, they are all 9E operated flights. Can I jumpseat? I know sitting in the jumpseat physically isn't allowed, but how can I get a standby/jumpseat listing so I can get a cabin seat?

Any number to call in advance?

Or do I just go the Delta checkin counter? Internationally speaking, my experience at the counters usually hasn't been too great, with agents not knowing what a jumpseat listing is, and the standard response of no one can sit in the flight deck jumpseat.

Anyone know what the tax amount is and where/how I can pay it?

Thanks!!!

You know everything else about 9E, I'm sure you can figure it out.

bravo!!!!!!

What an ungreatful Colgan pilot at 9E. I lived in base at 9E, so jumpseating procedures internationally with 9E was not my forte. Maybe an original 9E pilot has a better answer.

I'm sure you just list on it like any other flight. Just go to deltanet and list. My experience overseas is that the counter as been great in helping me identify loads and options (At least in Haiti and DR). From my understanding is you can not flying in the Jumpseat internationally. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. As far as the tax information, call our travel department. If someone answers the phone, they can give you a good idea on the cost of the leg. You can get the number off of our website. Hope this helps!

Serious? How thick-skulled do you have to be to turn this into 9L/9E?

I do not owe you anything, simply because our holdings company merged and mismanaged us into a bankruptcy. I'd gladly help a fellow pilot out. You have shown you aren't a fellow. You are the fan on the sidelines that spits venom at the players, and roots against them, and then apparently asks them for help getting home. :confused:

As a legacy 9e pilot, I agree with the Colgan pilot's statement. We gotta stick together in these hard times ya know? ;) PLus I don't jumpseat.


^^^^ I think Shy might be getting his first taste of Karma, and she hasn't showered in a few days.

Seriously Shyguy, go away. We are sick of you trolling 9E chats. Please take your ego and bless someone else's presence with it.

Smarter move would be to ID90, or whatever reciprocal travel arrangement your airline has ... or drive across the bridge from Detroit.

There are certain international taxes which have to be collected which require a "tax ticket" (I forgot what the exact term is called) and the Agents wont work you with out it. (having learned my lessons trying to get out of Canada with lap child which generates the same issue ... I put a gate check bag tag on her toe ... the Canadians were not amused ...)

If your airline has a JS coordinator, call them. This is their area of expertise. If you don't have a JS Coordinator, then talk to one of your own Gate Agents, or call the other airline's JS coordinator. When I do that sort of thing I try to find the most experienced Agent I can find and buy them a cup of their preferred beverage ... it is a bit of a PITA to generate the "tax ticket."

I don't even try to international JS on my own carrier.

Oh really? Help out a fellow 9E pilot? Lets have a blast at the past, back in 2010:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/913729-post71.html

There you go you traitor. You couldn't even stand united with the 9E pilots with your eyes on the prop dollars. What did you, Mr. Fellow Pilot, say about our 9E picket back in 2011? Ah yes, "that's a disservice to the 3000 pilots being represented at the table."

Gee, thanks Mr. Fellow Pilot. I appreciated your support back then in our time of need at 9E. I'll tell you what is a disservice. A backstabbing Colgan guy like you that couldn't even stand in solidarity with us back then, talking about how it's a disservice to the other 3000 pilots, now shutted the hell up after his airline went poof and gladly flying 9E planes. Now I certainly see I shouldn't expect any help from an underhanded backstabber like you.

Oh okay, thank you. LOL at the check bag ticket on the toe! We don't have a nonrev (ID90/ZED) on Delta or DCI, so a jumpseat pass is all I have. Thanks again, I found my answer.

Picketing while there was progress at the table? Shows how delusional you are. Those other 3000 pilots it was a disservice to included 9E pilots.

Besides, that event was coordinated by the old 9E ALPA reps, I thought you were against them too? Your dartboard of blame is a moving target.

Why would we picket when OUR MEC told us not to? Wouldn't make any sense at all. Silly boi

Who says we aren't united a pilot group? It just takes an internet troll.

I have one question, Who remembers someone's post from 2.5 years?