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04-29-2013 | 03:28 PM

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Duly noted.

04-29-2013 | 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky

That's my guess because they have a lot of 50 seaters that United will want to trade them for.

The trade in has already been negotiated in the new CPA Skywest Inc got when they bought ExpressJet in 2010. First right of refusal on 75 replacements and 15 growth aircraft.

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United buys them... and then gives them to a regional... ???

They don't give these aircraft away. They either lease them to the regional or just have a lower reimburse rate for operating the aircraft on their behalf.

04-29-2013 | 04:22 PM

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They don't give these aircraft away. They either lease them to the regional or just have a lower reimburse rate for operating the aircraft on their behalf.

Thanks. I was having a blond moment.

04-29-2013 | 04:48 PM

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Going to XJT. Some kind of ratio replacement for the 50 seaters

04-29-2013 | 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcarpilot

ALL the majors do this. Contintal always owned all the ERJs. Delta owns all the 900s out there.

Semantics, but CAL had the leases on the planes.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Maybe. UAL might have preferred to own them to retain control...that way they can leverage for short-term contracts and switch operators as needed. INC would require a long-term contract if they were going to buy the planes.

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Originally Posted by 3stripes

Owning the aircraft gives UAL the ultimate whipsawing advantage. They can move these planes around and use them as leverage.

True. Since Jeffrey, and Jeffery's way of business is basically how UAL is run.

Depending on how the subleases are negotiated, the leverage that UAL will have on whoever they lease them to will be pretty large. Not unlike what CAL did in 2007 with XJT. Only it's doubtful that there will be a "sure, you can keep the planes, just can't do X,Y, or Z with them......."

04-29-2013 | 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip7

If United bought the planes doubtful it's coming to Skywest Inc. Financing the planes themselves is Inc's main advantage to counter higher crew costs. I'm guessing the planes split between TSA, Compass and RAH

SkyWest has a mix of aircraft they lease themselves and major-leased hulls. Probably going to XJT though because they have so many 50 seaters, although I hear the 145 wins the efficiency game so maybe...

04-30-2013 | 05:45 AM

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I wonder where UAL would want these based, where does shuttle fly theirs mostly?

04-30-2013 | 02:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Fly782;1400553]I wonder where UAL would want these based, where does shuttle fly theirs mostly?[/QUOTE

Mostly out of ORD, DEN, EWR.

ORD-IND
ORD-MSY
ORD-LGA
ORD-Canada
ORD-MSP
ORD-BOS
ORD-DFW
ORD-PIT

DEN-DSM
DEN-IND
DEN-Canada
DEN-CMH
DEN-SLC
SLC-ORD
DEN-DFW
DEN-AUS
DEN-CLE

EWR-CANADA
EWR-MSY
EWR-MSP
EWR-CMH
EWR-IND

to name a few.

04-30-2013 | 02:43 PM

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I wonder where UAL would want these based, where does shuttle fly theirs mostly?

I'm going to bet IAH, EWR, and IAD.

04-30-2013 | 03:06 PM

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Just spoke with an old friend from Republic who is in management and he indicated that these planes will be split up between the Shuttle and Chautauqua certificates. He could/would not tell me any of the specifics but pointed out that Republic has been operating this A/C type for some time with knowledgeable crews, maintenance personal, and better on time performance. It will be interesting to see where the aircraft actually end up.