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Old 06-28-2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 680crewchief
Have you tried Lakes? I'm not joking. If you show up for an interview and aren't Aaron Hernandez, I guarantee you can have all the flying forehead time your heart desires.
I have to giggle, and yes I have. I must be Aaron Hernandez (kidding). Are they even getting any interviewees these days? Sorry for the thread drift.
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Old 06-28-2013 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
I have to giggle, and yes I have. I must be Aaron Hernandez (kidding). Are they even getting any interviewees these days? Sorry for the thread drift.
My condolences then if ZK said no. I'm at a loss then if you were turned down. 3 new hires this month, 1 no show for a grand total of 2! Can't wait to see this place in my rear view mirror.
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Old 06-28-2013 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Not a kid, which may be part of my problem as well as for others who are not getting jobs at these airlines. I believe they do pick up older experienced pilots with prior turbine to show, but rarely without. We take too long to train & they know people 22-35 are cheaper.
How many excuses is that? and Im actually curious about republic telling you that you dont have a pilots license- not sure what you mean. Do you have an ATP or the written done?
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Old 06-28-2013 | 12:39 PM
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How many excuses is that? and I'm actually curious about Republic telling you that you don't have a pilots license- not sure what you mean. Do you have an ATP or the written done?
Without getting too public about this-

• that famously sour-faced HR lady would not take a copy of my pilot license and said as far as she is concerned I am not a pilot. She did accept one of those emergency FAA license faxes I had sent to her on the same day, but still no job. I suspect she took it as poor interview prep on my part, but I only had a few days to prepare after a wallet theft so there is only so much I could do.

• captain at the RAH interview board insisted I had failed several written exams which is not the case, none failed ever. I had to explain to him the problem codes listed on my ATP written scorecard is not number of times the test has been attempted. How he could not know this and be working as a review pilot, I do not know. It was curious to say the least. He also went into my logbook instructor signoffs and made some similar gaffs. He was either looking for a reason to dismiss or was incompetent at inspecting logbooks.

A had an even more ridiculous episode at ExpressJet where the interviewer assumed some simulator time entries were added to my total time, and despite my best effort using Excel to show otherwise, he sent me home anyway. The same company had an HR person declare I had not turned in all the PRIA paperwork, which is neither true nor something that should have stopped employment.

I have decided to try and digitize all my logbooks so there is less chance of human error next time around. With over 150 fine print pages to manually type this takes some time, but it is a good thing for any aspiring pilot to do.
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Old 06-28-2013 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Without getting too public about this-

• that famously sour-faced HR lady would not take a copy of my pilot license and said as far as she is concerned I am not a pilot. She did accept one of those emergency FAA license faxes I had sent to her on the same day, but still no job. I suspect she took it as poor interview prep on my part, but I only had a few days to prepare after a wallet theft so there is only so much I could do.

• captain at the RAH interview board insisted I had failed several written exams which is not the case, none failed ever. I had to explain to him the problem codes listed on my ATP written scorecard is not number of times the test has been attempted. How he could not know this and be working as a review pilot, I do not know. It was curious to say the least. He also went into my logbook instructor signoffs and made some similar gaffs. He was either looking for a reason to dismiss or was incompetent at inspecting logbooks.

A had an even more ridiculous episode at ExpressJet where the interviewer assumed some simulator time entries were added to my total time, and despite my best effort using Excel to show otherwise, he sent me home anyway. The same company had an HR person declare I had not turned in all the PRIA paperwork, which is neither true nor something that should have stopped employment.
Im sorry about the wallet loss but it seems that people from different companies are finding flaws with numerous things. I would evaluate that in a fearless manor ( take responsibility for your own material) and get it in order. No excuses bro. Good luck man.
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Old 06-28-2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Without getting too public about this-

• that famously sour-faced HR lady would not take a copy of my pilot license and said as far as she is concerned I am not a pilot. She did accept one of those emergency FAA license faxes I had sent to her on the same day, but still no job. I suspect she took it as poor interview prep on my part, but I only had a few days to prepare after a wallet theft so there is only so much I could do.

• captain at the RAH interview board insisted I had failed several written exams which is not the case, none failed ever. I had to explain to him the problem codes listed on my ATP written scorecard is not number of times the test has been attempted. How he could not know this and be working as a review pilot, I do not know. It was curious to say the least. He also went into my logbook instructor signoffs and made some similar gaffs. He was either looking for a reason to dismiss or was incompetent at inspecting logbooks.

A had an even more ridiculous episode at ExpressJet where the interviewer assumed some simulator time entries were added to my total time, and despite my best effort using Excel to show otherwise, he sent me home anyway. The same company had an HR person declare I had not turned in all the PRIA paperwork, which is neither true nor something that should have stopped employment.

I have decided to try and digitize all my logbooks so there is less chance of human error next time around. With over 150 fine print pages to manually type this takes some time, but it is a good thing for any aspiring pilot to do.
That sucks on your wallet. If you don't have a original pilots license(not your fault obviously) you should just reschedule. Every place I interviewed explicitly stated *required original documents* if you don't have it for whatever reason figure it out and reschedule. One way to convince them not to hire you is to not follow the instructions they gave you, when they have a room full of guys/gals there that did.
Reaching out to HR people and letting them know you are still interested and have your stuff together this time has gotten guys second chances to interview.
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Old 06-29-2013 | 06:58 AM
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Cubdriver seems like a nice enough guy and I've always thought he posts well on this board (I've lurked for a long time)...
Is it possible Cub that you have a skeleton that you aren't telling us about?
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Old 06-29-2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
Cubdriver seems like a nice enough guy and I've always thought he posts well on this board (I've lurked for a long time)...
Is it possible Cub that you have a skeleton that you aren't telling us about?
I would not recommend anyone telling too much about their skeletons here even if you have them. If you do and feel compelled to share them in order to get feedback ok, but use the old "I know a guy who has this problem" angle.

But no big issues here- at least none I know of, which is why I am truly confused about my lack of success. The regionals really hire cheap pilots and something says I am not cheap enough. They steer clear of more applicants than people on these boards want to believe also, but just the same it is a competition and I am going through my known weaknesses looking for anything to improve. Digitizing my logbooks, retaking the ATP written, getting more letters of recommendation, you know the drill.

At this point it looks like I need to just stop trying with these airlines and just do something else for a while though. Maybe I'll try again in a year or two if a shortage occurs and the time is right.
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Old 06-29-2013 | 06:14 PM
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Cubdriver, if you are considering making an airline your career do not give up. Seniority is everything. Good Luck Bro.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 05:31 AM
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If multiple carriers are finding issue with your record keeping or accuracy in your logbook; that should be an indication that something just isn't right.
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