Best response to Kit Darby ever!
07-29-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Best response to Kit Darby ever!
As long as we have pilots who are willing to work for free, things will never change. We had pilots willing to pay for their own initial training back in the 1990's. Not only Comair, but a small US Airways Express carrier, CCAIR stood up to their respective management. What happened was everyone ran scared and took deep concessions after seeing this 200 pilot airline sacrificing themselves.
We are our own worst enemies and will continue to be until things change.
I remember one executive say "we can get 900's on the property and offer direct left seat entry for $475 a week and there still won't be a shortage of willing applicants." (Slightly edited)
We are our own worst enemies and will continue to be until things change.
I remember one executive say "we can get 900's on the property and offer direct left seat entry for $475 a week and there still won't be a shortage of willing applicants." (Slightly edited)
07-29-2013 | 10:40 AM
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Best response to Kit Darby? Negative. It was factually inaccurate and horribly pessimistic. 24k take home average over 7 years for FOs? False. 48k average take home for Captains over 7-10 years?!?
False.
Kit skews way positive, responder skews way negative. Somebody with some common sense meet in the middle and put factual information out there!
False.Kit skews way positive, responder skews way negative. Somebody with some common sense meet in the middle and put factual information out there!
Yep, false indeed.
07-29-2013 | 11:15 AM
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Not trying to sound like a douche and I definitely do my fair share of complaining but nobody ever got duped into doing this job. If you want to fight to make it a better career I'm right there with you but playing the "I didn't know, whoa is me...it's a trap!" card doesn't make sense.
Yes, first (and at some carriers second, third, and fourth) year pay sucks...but you KNEW this when you signed up. If you didn't do your research and want to play the victim someone should show you the door.
07-29-2013 | 11:34 AM
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2 furloughs from Uncle Hulas University and a displacement.
Not trying to sound like a douche and I definitely do my fair share of complaining but nobody ever got duped into doing this job. If you want to fight to make it a better career I'm right there with you but playing the "I didn't know, whoa is me...it's a trap!" card doesn't make sense.
Yes, first (and at some carriers second, third, and fourth) year pay sucks...but you KNEW this when you signed up. If you didn't do your research and want to play the victim someone should show you the door.
Not trying to sound like a douche and I definitely do my fair share of complaining but nobody ever got duped into doing this job. If you want to fight to make it a better career I'm right there with you but playing the "I didn't know, whoa is me...it's a trap!" card doesn't make sense.
Yes, first (and at some carriers second, third, and fourth) year pay sucks...but you KNEW this when you signed up. If you didn't do your research and want to play the victim someone should show you the door.
07-29-2013 | 11:39 AM
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It's the only professional career where newbies are willing to work for those wages. And the only career where people ( nerds) get excited because a regional jet has engines under its wing, and they get to fly it!
07-29-2013 | 11:55 AM
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From: Rollin' Down tha 405
There's your example.
Now if you'd re-read what I posted up there you'd see that I was merely stating my frustration at the "ZOMG I got duped" attitude I've been seeing.
Nobody was duped, you knew what this industry was if you did your homework, if not, you don't deserve to be here.
Want to make things better? GREAT! Get out there and help your union to represent you!
07-29-2013 | 01:11 PM
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All he said was that everybody knows that pay can decrease AND life can seem kind of unfair at times. That's all. He says he knew what he was getting into...how is he the problem and not people like you who knew but expected things to magically change as soon as you hit the runway? And BTW, it's you'RE not youR.
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