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Old 08-25-2013 | 01:33 PM
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Pref interviews are a way to keep guys at the regionals. "Thanks for interviewing, but no thanks. Per the agreement you can reinterview in 12 months". Now that keeps X amount of pilots at the WO regional for 12 more months.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 01:39 PM
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L-Eagle has the best flowthru program since 97-98. In 16 years, a whopping 300-400 L-Eagle pilots made the jump.

What a joke.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 01:55 PM
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Do you believe that the companies care even the slightest bit about your sacrifices? If an ab initio program saves them money they'll do it and they really don't care whether they hurt your feelings.
Wow, you are quite the rabble-rouser. I'm not saying they would care, I never did. And if you think it's that hard to replace a 35K a year job, think again. I've had a couple of opportunities to leave the regionals for comparable jobs, but for what I've put into aviation I should at least give it a chance before leaving the industry. If what you stated were to happen (which it won't), I'd pack my bags, broseph. Because then there would be no hope, and that's the only reason a lot of these planes at regionals leave the ground.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Wow, you are quite the rabble-rouser. I'm not saying they would care, I never did. And if you think it's that hard to replace a 35K a year job, think again. I've had a couple of opportunities to leave the regionals for comparable jobs, but for what I've put into aviation I should at least give it a chance before leaving the industry. If what you stated were to happen (which it won't), I'd pack my bags, broseph. Because then there would be no hope, and that's the only reason a lot of these planes at regionals leave the ground.
Captains make more than 35k a year and thats over half your regional population. Would you lose some FOs? Yes, of course. Would you lose them all? No, of course not. Would the ab initio program suck for those of us currently at a regional? Absolutely. Will that stop the companies from doing it if it saves them money? Nope.

Your opinion is based on the fact you don't want an ab initio program to happen not that it won't or can't.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Captains make more than 35k a year and thats over half your regional population. Would you lose some FOs? Yes, of course. Would you lose them all? No, of course not. Would the ab initio program suck for those of us currently at a regional? Absolutely. Will that stop the companies from doing it if it saves them money? Nope.

Your opinion is based on the fact you don't want an ab initio program to happen not that it won't or can't.
I'm not denying the fact that ab initio won't or can't happen, I'm just denying the fact that it won't happen like you say it will.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 02:31 PM
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Alot of guys can't leave the industry. Changing careers in a tough economy is not easy. If you have the skills to do something else, yeah you'd leave, but the majority of guys only have one skill and thats flying an airplane.
That is a very true statement. I was furloughed from NetJets 3.5 years ago and had done nothing in my adult life besides flying. I knew a year before the furlough I had better get my arse in gear and find a new career........and pronto. I was fortunate that my bro in law owned and ran a plumbing service company. Being a plumbing apprentice at 35, working under kids with no education, morals or hygiene was a life altering moment in my life. Here I am almost 4 years later about to get my contractors license in a few months with a renewed sense of joy that I am no longer tied to aviation 100%. I realize leaving on your own and getting f lowed are two different things, but finding a new career, even at 35 can be done.

My perfect scenario now is to go back to NJ (hopefully sooner rather than later) and put my contractors license to work part time. We all know that the perfect scenario rarely works out, so i'm thinking about jumping back into the regional world to get current again. I have 9000TT with 5 types, degree and 7000PIC. The currency thing is killing me, but now that I have a fall back plan, I'm willing to bite the pillow and go back to the regionals for a time to get current. I swore up and down years ago I would never go to a major, but I'm willing to give it a chance if the opportunity presents itself. The beauty of a fall back plan is having the ability to give the middle finger to management if I'm having a rough day and head home with my head held high. Good luck to the regional folks looking to get out.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel
That is a very true statement. I was furloughed from NetJets 3.5 years ago and had done nothing in my adult life besides flying. I knew a year before the furlough I had better get my arse in gear and find a new career........and pronto. I was fortunate that my bro in law owned and ran a plumbing service company. Being a plumbing apprentice at 35, working under kids with no education, morals or hygiene was a life altering moment in my life. Here I am almost 4 years later about to get my contractors license in a few months with a renewed sense of joy that I am no longer tied to aviation 100%. I realize leaving on your own and getting f lowed are two different things, but finding a new career, even at 35 can be done.

My perfect scenario now is to go back to NJ (hopefully sooner rather than later) and put my contractors license to work part time. We all know that the perfect scenario rarely works out, so i'm thinking about jumping back into the regional world to get current again. I have 9000TT with 5 types, degree and 7000PIC. The currency thing is killing me, but now that I have a fall back plan, I'm willing to bite the pillow and go back to the regionals for a time to get current. I swore up and down years ago I would never go to a major, but I'm willing to give it a chance if the opportunity presents itself. The beauty of a fall back plan is having the ability to give the middle finger to management if I'm having a rough day and head home with my head held high. Good luck to the regional folks looking to get out.
I keep trying to motivate myself to get off my butt and do something on the side but I just haven't had any good ideas yet.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 02:51 PM
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I'll take a flow along with my six figures please. Flows don't work period. All they do is take pilots out of the job hunt who would get a legacy job anyway if they just put their stuff out there. The flow will hurt most in the end.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Alot of guys can't leave the industry. Changing careers in a tough economy is not easy. If you have the skills to do something else, yeah you'd leave, but the majority of guys only have one skill and thats flying an airplane.
If they only have one skill set, then they are lazy (like I once was). I don't trust aviation enough to count on it forever. I used to have only one skill, then I watched a friend lose his medical for good. This was an eye opening event in my life...probably one of those life altering events I hear people talk about. After that I set out to develop another skill set and work on a side income. The day I lose my medical/get furloughed isn't the day I want to think about what I'm going to do to pay the bills. All it takes is a will and some sense of direction. I read tons of books, studied, took a class or two, and sought out advice/education from blogs, forums, and friends or experts. All of this can be done while holding a full time job, as I have done it. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but it's a start.

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I keep trying to motivate myself to get off my butt and do something on the side but I just haven't had any good ideas yet.
Keep looking, there are plenty of things put there. I would start looking in whatever your hobbies (aside from aviation) are or what you enjoy most. Goodluck.
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Old 08-25-2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
I'll take a flow along with my six figures please. Flows don't work period. All they do is take pilots out of the job hunt who would get a legacy job anyway if they just put their stuff out there. The flow will hurt most in the end.
Is there something put there that says pilots wont get hired on their own merit, if they are part of a flow? I may have missed it, but I haven't seen anything of the like. I have watched dudes with a flow, go to a completely different legacy.
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