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09-29-2013 | 04:48 PM
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Changes to health insurance. Not sure how much it will be going up though. Pay caps. F/O's at year 4 ($39.50/hr I think), CA's at year 12 ($90.00 ish). Must apply and interview at the new AA, or have your pay frozen at current longevity (continue to receive contractual raises through 2017). Anyone between year 12-18 now will not get longevity pay increases from current rate, only contractual raises. It's basically a B-scale for anyone who is not at year 18 pay already ($99/hr).
09-29-2013 | 04:51 PM
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Guys I am not happy about psa contract like the rest but being cruel to pilots for there choices is no better. When you get wronged sometimes the best way is to show kindness. If this psa deal leads to guys loosing jobs I will do my part to help guys get jobs at as many airlines as I can. If we want to be unified now is the time and we do that with respect and kindness. That is my 2 cents.
09-29-2013 | 06:58 PM
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Never been an airline guy so unaware of how this works. Can you not vote as a 1st year employee (assuming that means you're still on probation)? Do you still operate under the rules of the CBA that everyone else uses or is there a different section for 1st year employees? Do you still pay dues?
09-29-2013 | 11:34 PM
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I agree with the crying eagle pic. Sigh.
PSA guys and gals have never been more divided. We don't need the "outsiders" to remind us. We've got enough name calling and mud slinging going on in our private forum that it's really sad. And we use our real names in our forums, not the anonymous cheap shots that some of you keyboard warriors are typing up while laughing just to stir stuff up.
40% of us voted no knowing that if this TA fails then PSA will most likely be non existent in 5-6 years. Which is very likely. Ask PDT guys. Our 200's aren't that much shinier than their dashes. If anything, their dashes are more economical.
So what does the 40% guys and gals get for possibly throwing out our careers to stand up for what's right? Jumpseat denial threats and name calling. Even a go jets guy is poking fun at us which I found hilarious. Real supportive guys.
PSA has lowered the bar across the regional industry. But this experience also proved that the rest of you are just as selfish and non supportive and immature. So good luck with that STW movement which I've fully supported until now being disgusted by many of you.
09-30-2013 | 03:33 AM
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You think most of us haven't been applying to better places long before this ta was even crafted by management? The tricky part is getting a call. If your advice is walk away from 7 years longevity and come be a year 1 fo at xjt, then thats advice you wouldnt follow and you know it.
Well, lived a shunned existence at PSA then doesn't matter to me anymore. You guys are what 400ish pilots that ****ed off 12,000+ish pilots seems like your lives are gonna be pretty miserable to me because not only are you banned I don't want to even be around you guys.
09-30-2013 | 03:42 AM
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No union dues during probation.
I agree with the crying eagle pic. Sigh.
PSA guys and gals have never been more divided. We don't need the "outsiders" to remind us. We've got enough name calling and mud slinging going on in our private forum that it's really sad. And we use our real names in our forums, not the anonymous cheap shots that some of you keyboard warriors are typing up while laughing just to stir stuff up.
40% of us voted no knowing that if this TA fails then PSA will most likely be non existent in 5-6 years. Which is very likely. Ask PDT guys. Our 200's aren't that much shinier than their dashes. If anything, their dashes are more economical.
I agree with the crying eagle pic. Sigh.
PSA guys and gals have never been more divided. We don't need the "outsiders" to remind us. We've got enough name calling and mud slinging going on in our private forum that it's really sad. And we use our real names in our forums, not the anonymous cheap shots that some of you keyboard warriors are typing up while laughing just to stir stuff up.
40% of us voted no knowing that if this TA fails then PSA will most likely be non existent in 5-6 years. Which is very likely. Ask PDT guys. Our 200's aren't that much shinier than their dashes. If anything, their dashes are more economical.
So what does the 40% guys and gals get for possibly throwing out our careers to stand up for what's right? Jumpseat denial threats and name calling. Even a go jets guy is poking fun at us which I found hilarious. Real supportive guys.
PSA has lowered the bar across the regional industry. But this experience also proved that the rest of you are just as selfish and non supportive and immature. So good luck with that STW movement which I've fully supported until now being disgusted by many of you.
PSA has lowered the bar across the regional industry. But this experience also proved that the rest of you are just as selfish and non supportive and immature. So good luck with that STW movement which I've fully supported until now being disgusted by many of you.
unfortunately, you're going to get lumped in with that other 61% because there's no way to make the distinction and its obviously a very emotional issue, not saying its right, especially the js war baloney
09-30-2013 | 04:28 AM
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2. Why are they stupid? Because ALPA said so?
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