I understand what you are saying, and moderating a forum is a thankless job most of the time. Especially a forum like this one.

However, you don't have to look very hard to spot trolls. People who's single goal is to knock people down and "rain on parades". They never contribute anything meaningful or provide any help(this is key).

Yet they sashay through this forum daily with impunity. Not so much as a warning. Just food for thought....

 

Didn't management and their union intimidate their pilots to vote yes? But holding these people accountable is a bad thing? Everyone talks about coming together as a group to improve pay and conditions. If you start distinguishing who the weak links are by name you'll eventually get there. Any time a company votes this garbage in list should be made and sent around. You want improvement, hold them accountable and show these people how unwelcome they are to the profession.

 

I'm curious. Why were PSA pilots worried about their jobs? Didn't the company just post some pretty big profits? I can see why somebody would vote yes if the situation is lower pay vs. no pay, but was that really the state of affairs at PSA?

 

Because the new party line at alpa is "if you dont play ball with taking concessions you'll end up like comair"

 

The union made it known that during negotiations Airways mentioned that our 200 leases would be up in 2019 and that would be that.

 

yes because alpa is making sure there are extra profits at mainline so they can increase pay and benefits of mainline pilots. while alpa and management in collusion with each other keep regional pilots in servitude.

 

Yes the negotiators from airways pretty much said this would be end game for PSA if we vote it down. They've also said its okay if we vote no, they're going to Mesa next.

These are numbers people. No hard feelings but the 35 crj200 and 14 crj700 is not worth being operated. Parker also said the new American will not have any 50 seater jets.

These are real threats. Airways is making record profit. That makes them more dangerous when negotiating contrary to the popular belief that concessions should only be given in bankruptcy.

And despite all these threats, many of us rather burn this place down than to give another penny in concessions when the company IS making record profit and despite our small size, we did contribute. So instead of rewarding us, they're setting us up for failure whether the TA passes or fails. Many of you spectators don't see that we lose either way.

 

I believe it was all time record profits for that quarter, in the history of the company...

 

So if you had a car lease and it was coming up to it's final month, you could call the company and ask them to just give you the rest of the year off with pay until they could arrange a higher pay rate so you could drive a newer, nicer car? It makes zero sense.

 

Do you honestly think that they need any valid reason to shut us down? Why wait until the leases expire? Personally I believe the threat of us shutting down when the 200 leases expire was a load of poo. The union and management are going to put the fear into the pilot group to get this crap to pass. I've seen no proof at all that this is growth for our company either as so many have said. I have no problem saying I voted no. As a matter of fact I voted no twice. The fact is this TA is garbage and now the few no voters are going to have to suffer because of the yes voters. Now more than ever I hope this American/Airways merger fails.