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Old 09-30-2013 | 05:28 AM
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Xjt pilot, I dont give a sh*t about your opinion. The point of this thread was to make it clear to others that many of us voted no. You can voice your strong opinion to psa pilots when you see us, not here. Captain Tony, us no voters wanted nothing to do with pref hiring. Forcing me to apply and take a job at the worst paying major in the world sound like a good deal to you? Not me. I'd like a choice in where I work. Youre not scaring this guy. Please get usapa or airways to eliminate that portion of the ta. Im more than for it.
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Old 09-30-2013 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
1. At least Endeavor was in bankruptcy with a judge's gun to their heads. PSA is good old fashioned predatory bargaining.

2. Why are they stupid? Because ALPA said so?
1. Got it. Thanks. I was unaware of the circumstances

2. I don't get a flip about ALPA. This is what will happen..

PSA guys will get denied the Jumpseat. In return..
PSA guys will deny all Eagle and Mainline AA guys the jumpseat.
When the mainline guys begin to get effected you will see a uproar from AA Pilot JS Coordinator and the AA guys will start denying EGF guys out of principle .

Happened in 2006. Jumpseat war lasted 3 days. Because the AA guys couldn't get to work.
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Old 09-30-2013 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb

PSA guys and gals have never been more divided. We don't need the "outsiders" to remind us. We've got enough name calling and mud slinging going on in our private forum that it's really sad. And we use our real names in our forums, not the anonymous cheap shots that some of you keyboard warriors are typing up while laughing just to stir stuff up.
There's one way to start a list to hold yes voters accountable. Post them in crew rooms, online, wherever it takes to get these career destroyers out of the industry. We don't need them going to mainline to vote in concessions there too.
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Old 09-30-2013 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Well, lived a shunned existence at PSA then doesn't matter to me anymore. You guys are what 400ish pilots that ****ed off 12,000+ish pilots seems like your lives are gonna be pretty miserable to me because not only are you banned I don't want to even be around you guys.
So let me see if I have this right....About 200 pilots are to blame for this huge mess and the other 12,000+ have no responsibility what so ever....Got it...

Face it, all you whiny babies who helped get us to this point want to find a little pilot group that you can use as a scapegoat....
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Old 09-30-2013 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyitB
1. Got it. Thanks. I was unaware of the circumstances

2. I don't get a flip about ALPA. This is what will happen..

PSA guys will get denied the Jumpseat. In return..
PSA guys will deny all Eagle and Mainline AA guys the jumpseat.
When the mainline guys begin to get effected you will see a uproar from AA Pilot JS Coordinator and the AA guys will start denying EGF guys out of principle .

Happened in 2006. Jumpseat war lasted 3 days. Because the AA guys couldn't get to work.
Not buying it. PSA has such a tiny network, I doubt your scenario would even come close to happening. Not advocating anyone denying jumpseats per se, but PSA doesn't have much recourse. Just Eagle alone is nearly 5 times the size of PSA.

And I was here in '06 and I don't recall any jumpseat war involving eagle and AA. Could you elaborate?
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Old 09-30-2013 | 07:59 AM
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The SkyWest pilots "won" a jumpseat war a few years ago when United claimed j/s priority on their airplanes.
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Old 09-30-2013 | 08:07 AM
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http://youtu.be/KoSmxnBXMGU

Is this what a jumpseat war looks like?
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Old 09-30-2013 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
The SkyWest pilots "won" a jumpseat war a few years ago when United claimed j/s priority on their airplanes.
So define a "win" in this case...
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Old 09-30-2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Maybe its time to rethink preferential hiring too. Do we really want all these Endeavor and PSA pilots coming here and polluting our list with a track record of voting yes to massive yet needless concessions?
So what you are trying to say is we should discriminate and restrict freedoms to those that don't have the same beliefs as you do?
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Old 09-30-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
So define a "win" in this case...
A message is sent to the next group facing this decision that predatory bargaining (back stabbing) has consequences.
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