Eagle increasing number of un commutable trip
10-18-2013 | 09:14 PM
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I've thought about this for a long time, but said little about it. I fully expect this to grow. Management is slowly pushing towards things like this, whether they are aware of it or not. I doubt it's anyone's "goal", just where they are moving towards. There are quite a few reasons why they may not do this, but all it takes is a few streamlined airlines to start making more money, and then things are set in motion...
10-19-2013 | 03:58 AM
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It is not ftdt, it is management stupidity, simple as that.
They don't give a rats *** about your commute, just as I don't care if the flight leaves on time, not my job. When everyone has done there jobs then we push.
When morning hub flight start canceling and junior manning increase then there crap will hit the fan just in time for the holidays. Then they try to get you to feel sorry for the passengers, you know the ones that won't pay a high price ticket so they come to you for pay cuts. This thanksgiving and Christmas is going to be fun.
They don't give a rats *** about your commute, just as I don't care if the flight leaves on time, not my job. When everyone has done there jobs then we push.
When morning hub flight start canceling and junior manning increase then there crap will hit the fan just in time for the holidays. Then they try to get you to feel sorry for the passengers, you know the ones that won't pay a high price ticket so they come to you for pay cuts. This thanksgiving and Christmas is going to be fun.
As far as the lowest ticket price. I'm sure that you seek out the most expensive gasoline too right (especially if the gas station caddy corner has gas for 10 cents less a gallon)
It isn't the consumers problem that your industry and management teams continuously undercut each other, people still drove when gas hit $5+/gallon. I bet that you are just another penny savvy consumer and look for bargains and good deals in every other aspect of your consumerism driven life, but you expect different in your sliver of a workplace from others.
10-19-2013 | 04:02 AM
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Of course airline pilots aren't necessarily forced to live in that high cost of living area like the controllers you speak of in your example. That ability to live in a different area than your work, for whatever reason - family, affordability, school, job, etc - and the ability to commute to work is suppose to be one of the perks of the job correct?
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10-19-2013 | 07:10 AM
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Low fares, sometimes even below cost, are not in the long-term interest of passengers as a whole. Each customer, however, gains a short-term individual benefit from a cheap ticket. It's just one example of the "Tragedy of the Commons":
And as USMCFLYR points out, pilots behave this way too. 
At its core, the Tragedy of the Commons demonstrates that, in an situation where the consequences of a course of action are shared among a collective, while the benefits are reaped by an individual or single group within the collective, people will tend to take actions that in the long term are detrimental to the group as a whole. This is a tragedy because, in seeking their own personal gain, the members of the group actually ultimately hurt themselves.
10-19-2013 | 08:52 AM
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Was this senior captain Chicago based and are we talking eagle?
10-19-2013 | 09:35 AM
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Last 5 years: Boston closed, LA closed, San Juan closed, NYC co domicile, Saab parked, ATR parked and CRJ shifted around.
One the one hand, the company depends on people's willingness to commute. Then on the other, they claim commuting is a choice.
If you pursue a regional airline job, you can be stuck there, pilot shortage or not.
One the one hand, the company depends on people's willingness to commute. Then on the other, they claim commuting is a choice.
If you pursue a regional airline job, you can be stuck there, pilot shortage or not.
10-19-2013 | 10:22 AM
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That song you're singing isn't anything new in the regional world. Others have been doing that for 10+ years now. AE is just late to the party.
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