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12-11-2006 | 07:40 PM

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LivinTheDream28

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

Ok i'm gonna bite. What's IOE. I'm not there yet so fill me in. I'm all about getting paid for a lot of work in a short period so I wanna know what Boiler and fosters are talking about lol.

Initial Operating Experience......basically its where you fly a few trips with a check airmen and he determines whether or not you are OK to start flying the line.....guys that have been there can prolly provide more info

12-11-2006 | 07:42 PM

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40+ hours of IOE.. you guys must suck

12-11-2006 | 09:14 PM

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who the hell need 40 hours of IOE if you dont have it in 20 hours you are probably not going to get it.. I suggest you look into another line of work

12-11-2006 | 10:38 PM

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I got based in DTW and did some of it out of MEM and DTW. I think it depends on where they can find a check airman. I got sign off in about 28 hrs.

12-11-2006 | 11:27 PM

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I don't think they actually NEEDED 40 hours...they probably just got assigned to go on two 4-day trips and that's how long they took.

12-12-2006 | 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

I don't think they actually NEEDED 40 hours...they probably just got assigned to go on two 4-day trips and that's how long they took.

Yay for reading comprehension!

When you get assigned two four-day trips blocked at 19-20 hours each for IOE (because the CKA bid commutable trips and thats what is on his line) its pretty common to get 40 hours of IOE. Its not that you need it, but its what you get anyway.

Besides, as I said, the longer you are on IOE the shorter you are on reserve.

12-12-2006 | 04:58 AM

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Even if you got stuck in IOE for 40+ hours, that's probably not a bad thing as like Boiler said, less reserve and the captain you are flying with is probably a damn good pilot who will teach you something.

12-12-2006 | 05:11 AM

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who the hell need 40 hours of IOE if you dont have it in 20 hours you are probably not going to get it.. I suggest you look into another line of work

Wow. Tell ya what. Why don't you go ahead and read the posts in this thread and then make that comment. Did we "need" 40 hours of OE? No. I was good to go after the first trip according to my CA. However, the person doing the training scheduling gave me 2 4-day trips before I had even begun OE. With overages that worked out to 44 hours.

Also, anyone who thinks they "have it" after just 20-50 hours in an airline environment really doesn't "have it". You "have it" after 500+ hours of working in all types of weather with all kinds of crews. OE is like the private license - a license to learn.

12-12-2006 | 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha

40+ hours of IOE.. you guys must suck

As usual adding fuel to a flame, speaking without reading. It isn't that people needed it. It was how they were scheduled and some were getting extra hours of pay in the long run.

12-12-2006 | 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck

As usual adding fuel to a flame, speaking without reading. It isn't that people needed it. It was how they were scheduled and some were getting extra hours of pay in the long run.

More importantly...if the check airman signs you off on day one of four, he may or may not get his original FO back, but he will definately not get his IOE overide pay

My gut feeling tells me you can expect to get signed off on the last leg home on the last day