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Originally Posted by MEMbrain
(Post 1540028)
Funny, last year, you commuter pilots were crying for these new rest regs. You got what you wished for! :Deek:
:D:eek: You aren't anything more than a troll. Those two guys deserve a line guy at their company better than you. |
You all didn't really think more rest meant more rest at home did you?
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
(Post 1540151)
You all didn't really think more rest meant more rest at home did you?
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Originally Posted by lowflying
(Post 1540039)
Horizon has been using most of part 117 rules to build trips for some time now. Our scheduling committee actually builds the trips and lines for the pilots. Even though we haven't had scheduled short overnights for a long time we are still seeing more 30hr overnights popping up. For those of you who had scheduled 8-10 hour overnights and no TAFB rigs your average pay per day is probably going to go down a bit. :(
If the schedule builders at your airlines didn't spend much time playing around with the new rules then they are going to produce some cra**y trips. However, once they have a little time to play around and tweak the trips there will most likely be some improvements. |
Originally Posted by Avroman
(Post 1540961)
Probably 90% of overnights on the 200 at Endeavor were scheduled less than 11 hours off. January lines are going to be horrid. Lots of 4 days with over 30 hours in a hotel are in the pairings for January.
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1540963)
But you guys have duty/trip rigs correct?
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Originally Posted by CarolinaAngler
(Post 1541012)
Ha, no. 4 hour min day. So 38 hours in Charleston, WV pays 4 hours, which will be spent on a cab to not go crazy.
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Originally Posted by Slats
(Post 1539861)
Is it so hard to give a hard line for rest behind the door? 9-10-11 hrs would've been fine. Now we need a damn flow chart to figure out if we're legal to fly :rolleyes:
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That's why you have PTO, be prepared to use it as part of your schedule building.
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FAR 117 is a total joke. It is nothing but political theatre which does little to nothing to enhance safety. It doesn't matter how long your layover is. If you live on the west coast and have 4 am shows east coast time fatigue will always be an issue, unless you can goto bed at 6pm your time to get 8 hours of sleep for the 4 am show. All these rolling windows are straight up retarded. Reduced rest was a nessecary evil to have more efficent/better paying schedules.
Now instead of reduced rest we get to rot in crappy outstations for an entire day and get less days off just to get the same pay we could have had with occasional reduced rest. Given the choice between spending 30 hours in some craphole or sucking it up for one night and doing reduced rest I take the reduced rest every single time. |
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