Part 117 Rest Rules
 

Just wondering how the new rest requirements are affecting your schedules for next month. At 9E on the 900 we have almost 40 reserve lines for 130 pilots. About a 30% increase for the same amount of flying as December.

I love the new rest rules. I've always complained tht I make too much money, home way too much, and never have gotten enough time to really fully enjoy some of our fantastic hotels. 22 hours in Fayetnam tomorrow nite. Gosh I can't wait! And all these three day trips will allow me to spend more time each month commuting and meeting all the new and interesting people in ohare and the back of the plane. Merry Christmas!

Yes this job just took another big nose dive into the suck category, why anybody would consider "airline pilot" as a career option is beyond me.

Is it so hard to give a hard line for rest behind the door? 9-10-11 hrs would've been fine. Now we need a damn flow chart to figure out if we're legal to fly :rolleyes:

On the Endeavor side our PBS committee puts out "mock" scheduled and they are awful. We are actually working more now. On average, lines have increases by almost 20 hours and days off have disappeared. As a 7 year FO I average 18 off a month, now its 12 unless you're in the top 20%. We dramatically increased reserve which forces flying up the list. I think this was a major fail. There are lines with nothing but uncommutable 4 day trips with two days off in between. How is that an improvement?

I don't understand why we can't do more than three early shows in a row. Some people are morning people and if your body is acclimated to early shows it isn't bad. Now we have trips with a 5:00 am show day one a noon show day 2 with a release at midnight, a noon show day three for a quick turn then a 5 am show day 4. This is way more fatiguing then going to bed and getting up at the same time 4 days in a row.

Can you give an example of what your duty day and show times look like for a given week? I'd like to see it if you don't mind posting it.

Woohoo, 19 hour 4 day with 38hours in Vermont!

fr 3840 dtw-tvc 1155 1306 111 104 25
fr 3840 tvc-dtw 1331 1450 119 105 45
fr 3784 dtw-atw 1535 1601 126 123 27
fr 3784 atw-dtw 1628 1854 126 117 122
fr 3448 dtw-btv 2016 2205 149 139 711 0 628 0 1110 btv 3735
d-end: 2220l rept: 1155l
su 3598 btv-dtw 1225 1433 208 157 52
su 3474 dtw-mdt 1525 1650 125 124 25
su 3474 mdt-dtw 1715 1904 149 133 41
su 3995 dtw-azo 1945 2046 101 51 623 0 545 0 906 azo 1039
d-end: 2101l (rr 900) rept: 0740l
mo 3622 azo-dtw 0810 0924 114 54 101
mo 3670 dtw-gso 1025 1212 147 137 25
mo 3670 gso-dtw 1237 1430 153 142 50
mo 3936 dtw-abe 1520 1648 128 126 25
mo 3586 abe-dtw 1713 1905 152 145 814 0 724 1 1140
d-end: 1920l (cr 1200) --------------------------------------
totals block 2148 dhd 0 credit 1937 t.a.f.b. 8010

Part 117 Rest Rules
 

How is your block 21:48 but you credit 2+ hours less than that?!?

I was wondering the same thing. I was also wondering why you don't get any credit for the Sat. in BVT. Do you not have any kind of min. day credit?