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Originally Posted by LarryDavid
(Post 1541784)
FAR 117 is a total joke. It is nothing but political theatre which does little to nothing to enhance safety. It doesn't matter how long your layover is. If you live on the west coast and have 4 am shows east coast time fatigue will always be an issue, unless you can goto bed at 6pm your time to get 8 hours of sleep for the 4 am show. All these rolling windows are straight up retarded. Reduced rest was a nessecary evil to have more efficent/better paying schedules.
Now instead of reduced rest we get to rot in crappy outstations for an entire day and get less days off just to get the same pay we could have had with occasional reduced rest. Given the choice between spending 30 hours in some craphole or sucking it up for one night and doing reduced rest I take the reduced rest every single time. But but but... Now the travelling public will have less to fear when getting on a small plane with "poorly trained" inexperienced pilots. They might have had 30 hrs off at the outstation but when you had to moonlight at Arby's so you can afford this so called career, I'm sure we'll all be well rested... FAIL The saddest part of all of this is, for just pennies we could make a livable wage and not have to be gone 18 days a month. Good thing we thought of the children. |
Take up a collection and then have a full page article printed in USA Today.
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Our schedules will go to hell at Republic (US Airways and American).
Pretty much all our trips are now about 5 hours avg daily credit. There are a few exceptions, but avg credit is WAAAY down, commutability is going to sh*t, and as a consequence of our company insisting we continue to work 85+ hours a month, even senior folks will be down to 13-ish days off (versus the contractual min of 12). |
Originally Posted by thump
(Post 1542055)
Our schedules will go to hell at Republic (US Airways and American).
Pretty much all our trips are now about 5 hours avg daily credit. There are a few exceptions, but avg credit is WAAAY down, commutability is going to sh*t, and as a consequence of our company insisting we continue to work 85+ hours a month, even senior folks will be down to 13-ish days off (versus the contractual min of 12). |
Originally Posted by thump
(Post 1542055)
Our schedules will go to hell at Republic (US Airways and American).
Pretty much all our trips are now about 5 hours avg daily credit. There are a few exceptions, but avg credit is WAAAY down, commutability is going to sh*t, and as a consequence of our company insisting we continue to work 85+ hours a month, even senior folks will be down to 13-ish days off (versus the contractual min of 12). |
Just wait till the staffing crisis at the regionals meets head on with 117's requirement to carry more pilots. I'd imagine this summer will be pretty interesting if the majors and lcc's are pulling 300 a month or more from the regionals.
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Originally Posted by CarolinaAngler
(Post 1542087)
Just wait till the staffing crisis at the regionals meets head on with 117's requirement to carry more pilots. I'd imagine this summer will be pretty interesting if the majors and lcc's are pulling 300 a month or more from the regionals.
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So most lines out there are going down towards min days off for most?
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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky
(Post 1542070)
Problem is that you can't consistently work more than 83 hours a month or you will go over 1,000 in a rolling 12 months. 83*12=996 So you will see your block hours drop to around 80 a month for their "scheduling buffers". Either that or your schedule will have more deadheads so your credit will be the same but your block will be down.
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I equate FAR 117 to daylight savings time. Looks good on paper, may make you feel a bit better psychologically, but at the end of the day it is pointless and doesn't do anything useful.
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