Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

American Eagle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-19-2014 | 05:39 PM
  #41  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Bzzt
If they offer 170 aircraft I absolutely guarantee it passes and by a wide margin.
Yes, a large percentage of the pie-eyed pilots there would go for a shiny candy wrapper (shiny jets) oblivious to the fact the candy tastes like **** (bottom-tier pay/bennies).

Heck, even some the senior pilots there who know better like RJ are ready to lick the AIP because they think the center of the tootsie pop will taste good at least for him.

I say at least half have their tongues out ready to go and that will be enough.
Reply
Old 01-19-2014 | 06:24 PM
  #42  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Default

Voting No regardless of airframe total.

I don't think it wil happen, because this is all fear mongering, but the best deal is the 60% flow that kicks in when they start furloughing.
Reply
Old 01-20-2014 | 12:25 AM
  #43  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
From: emb-145 ca
Default Student loans?

So Envoy wants to cap FO pay at 4 yrs...? Is this for all FOs or just new hires? Is it a B-Scale tied to recovering (hypothetical) training funds or some sort of increased student loan funding that the airlines know is going to have to happen soon? An indentured servant type deal? Or are they just raping and pillaging?
Reply
Old 01-20-2014 | 12:34 AM
  #44  
PilotJ3's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
15 Years
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,870
Likes: 117
Default

So Envoy wants to cap FO pay at 4 yrs...? Is this for all FOs or just new hires? Is it a B-Scale tied to recovering (hypothetical) training funds or some sort of increased student loan funding that the airlines know is going to have to happen soon? An indentured servant type deal? Or are they just raping and pillaging?
FOs on property get pay freeze wherever they are above 4th year. Same deal as PSA.
Reply
Old 01-20-2014 | 12:56 AM
  #45  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Reservist
Voting No regardless of airframe total.

I don't think it wil happen, because this is all fear mongering, but the best deal is the 60% flow that kicks in when they start furloughing.
we already have that in our last contract. Vote NO
Reply
Old 01-20-2014 | 03:59 AM
  #46  
What's Avatar
Underpaid...
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,101
Likes: 0
From: French-Canadian
Default

Originally Posted by buddies8
we already have that in our last contract. Vote NO
That us what he is referring to, that we are supposed to have 50% of new hire slots, if eagle has staffing issues they can meter to 20 pilots a month and if there is a surplus eagle gets a minimum of 60% of class slots at AA.
Reply
Old 01-20-2014 | 11:16 PM
  #47  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
Default Loans

Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
So Envoy wants to cap FO pay at 4 yrs...? Is this for all FOs or just new hires? Is it a B-Scale tied to recovering (hypothetical) training funds or some sort of increased student loan funding that the airlines know is going to have to happen soon? An indentured servant type deal? Or are they just raping and pillaging?
What new loan programs? I missed this one on what sounds like ad-initio.
Is that it? I saw some loosely worded program descriptions, but nothing what you reffered to.
Just wondering if you speculated or something is brewing. I really hope they don't do this because it would mean that airlines would take only from their respective programs.

Last edited by outaluckagain; 01-20-2014 at 11:27 PM.
Reply
Old 01-21-2014 | 01:39 AM
  #48  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Default

As a SouthFlorida native eagle was my top choice. Even though I now fly out of my home town I still see eagle as an option since commuting on FO pay is horrible. Does anyone think that eagle will lose their MIA base if they don't sign this concessionary contract. I know that base has a lot of reserves so what should a junior guy expect to fly there a month since you will need 2000 hours with the company to qualify for the new AA preferential hiring.
Reply
Old 01-21-2014 | 03:03 AM
  #49  
tbjav8r's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Waaaait aaaaa minute.. Aren't we supposed to get 170 yes thats 170 airframes- E175's with this new proposal provided we vote yes? If that happens, upgrades will drop to 2-3 yrs and flow thru will move faster.

But vote NO, and???? well who knows……

WRONG PAL: 170 airframes on property NOT 170 new airframes
Parker is banking on idiots like this reading info INTO statements made through Eagle wire (inter company communication) and NOT through our elected MEC.
Reply
Old 01-21-2014 | 03:46 AM
  #50  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 0
From: forever fo
Default

Originally Posted by tbjav8r
WRONG PAL: 170 airframes on property NOT 170 new airframes
Parker is banking on idiots like this reading info INTO statements made through Eagle wire (inter company communication) and NOT through our elected MEC.
Boom, spot on. This game was played before and the company can include parked airplanes. You need to see all the improvements are recruiting tools, this is all coming regardless, they have zero choice, unless they can replace or no longer need our 220 hulls in about 18 months, otherwise they will be cx almost half our flights daily, that's not including the hysteria when people truly feel we are being com aired.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lbell911
Regional
35
03-13-2016 04:38 AM
Tsuda
American
0
12-18-2011 06:10 PM
withthatsaid182
Regional
12
04-01-2010 06:21 PM
EWRflyr
Major
57
09-23-2009 05:30 PM
Noleone
Regional
7
09-21-2007 07:24 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices