JamesNoBrakes

Sure, it's just extremely hard to prove. It takes a lot of leg-work, time, and good evidence. Much of the evidence, while "real", would be easily dismissed or offset by something the union's lawyers will counter with. I don't know if it would really be worth it to "sue" the union, would be very costly and possibly not very productive.

PCL_128

I've never claimed to be an EVP. Believe whatever you want about that. But I can assure you of this: if Moak was sending out "lackeys," I'd be the last person he'd pick. We couldn't agree on what to order on a pizza, let alone the direction of the union.

johnso29

And how would one quantify that? From day one at their regional? Based on what wages?

Brady settled out of court for good reason. The legal bills had piled up over the years, and even though a jury found ALPA guilty of DFR(good luck on defending that) Brady and his attorneys knew they weren't going to get anywhere near $500 mil, let alone the ridiculous $1.2 bil pie in the sky grab they were going for.

Packrat

Exactly correct.

Perhaps the "mob" should look to their own MEC and then look in the mirror.

They negotiated your contract and you ratified it. No one continues to force you to work for a company that provides substandard pay and benefits.

Pilots are their own worst enemies.

Captain Tony

What? Your name is Todd and you are (were) an EVP. Everyone here knows this. Stop lying.

jethikoki

If the regionals are subsidized does this mean that the mainline pilots or ALPA do not need to uphold agreements in place and should be equal regardless of majors or regionals? Not saying I like the way Comair tried doing things but it seems funny how ALPA's merger or seniority policy got convoluted and not very favorable to the Comair pilots. Another agreement in place with Mesaba pilots flow to NWA. Like flows or not it was an agreement that an ALPA carrier had. After DAL NWA merger ALPA chose not to honor or enforce that agreement except only for a handful. I doubt the merger would have gone as well as it did had DAL and DALPA only allowed a handful of NWA pilots to continue working at DAL. At least they would have the Mccaskill Bond amendment to protect their jobs anyway.

So what do you define as fair? You may be right that depending on which side of the fence your on and being biased. Maybe I should not be so biased but I am.

block30

The "if you don't like it, quit" notion I think is often too simplistic. How about good people stay and fight?

The regional industry is so large, and so often the pathway to the LCCs and majors, that avoiding the regionals is hard. I personally can't think of one child of a major/LCC pilot who didn't go to a regional ASAP in order to follow in their parent's footsteps. I tried to avoid the regionals at first. Then I started to feel all I was doing was getting behind everyone else.

Finally, I will say the equipment and safety practices at regionals are generally superior..I realize this isnt the most solid argument, but commercial/professional pilot doesn't make the top deadliest jobs every year because airline pilots are crashing and dying...its the part 91/135 guys.

PCL_128

Whatever you say.

Captain Tony

You just lost all credibility. Everyone knows who you are.

atrdriver

Instead of suing, maybe you should have had some self respect and voted NO.

Just a thought.