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Old 01-28-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flapsfail
Is pinnacle not below their quotas? If so, it was done wrong...
Obviously it isn't that simple. You want to complain to someone? Call Bloch or call the 9E original DRC people, they are the ones that could of pushed for a DOH and saved us all from this joke of an ISL.
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Old 01-28-2014 | 05:23 PM
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Obviously it isn't that simple. You want to complain to someone? Call Bloch or call the 9E original DRC people, they are the ones that could of pushed for a DOH and saved us all from this joke of an ISL.
There would have been riots in the streets and most 9e peeps would have tarred and feathered them if they pushed DOH.
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Old 01-28-2014 | 06:22 PM
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While I no longer have a dog in this fight I find it ironic that the day the ISL came out it was a huge win for pinnacle FO'S as they all gained relative seniority. The only thing I wish is for endeavour pilots to get hired where they want to end up sooner rather than later.
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Old 01-28-2014 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
While I no longer have a dog in this fight I find it ironic that the day the ISL came out it was a huge win for pinnacle FO'S as they all gained relative seniority. The only thing I wish is for endeavour pilots to get hired where they want to end up sooner rather than later.
You don't know, Saabs. You don't know.
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Old 01-28-2014 | 07:04 PM
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You don't know, Saabs. You don't know.
Don't know what? That I wish for everyone at endeavour to move on to their desired carrier?
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Old 01-28-2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
There would have been riots in the streets and most 9e peeps would have tarred and feathered them if they pushed DOH.
Really??? why was that. Could it be that there was terrible communication between the merger committee and the pilot group? I can't imagine that the merger committee actually thought that they could get something better by bullying Block. They should've explained the dangers of pursuing a staple or whatever the h$ll they were trying to do and the fact the a staple or anything close to a staple is rarely used and try to educate the pilot group. Instead they pushed for the impossible and at the end made Block the bad guy
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Old 01-28-2014 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Obviously it isn't that simple. You want to complain to someone? Call Bloch or call the 9E original DRC people, they are the ones that could of pushed for a DOH and saved us all from this joke of an ISL.
It is that simple. There are quotas and each group fills its quotas, according to Bloch, and after that it goes on relative seniority. But somehow the other two groups don't see it that way and are going to fight tooth and nail like a bunch of entitled spoiled kids. So please enlighten me on what I'm suppose to ask the reps?
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Old 01-28-2014 | 10:09 PM
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Quit your *****ing and enjoy those concessions! I hope everyone at Endeavour who voted yes to that ****ty contract ends up stuck there and reaps the benefit of that great contract they voted in.

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Old 01-28-2014 | 10:23 PM
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I understand getting screwed but it is what it is. After almost a year of bonding with fellow pilot groups, becoming one, and beginning to forget stupid squabbles of yesteryear, I just the other day started to hear again about this dividing bull****...it really annoyed me because it was pre-merger pinnacle pilots basically acting like they were the only ones screwed by the seniority merger. Im a 6 year FO and I got pinnacle guys hired 2-3 years after me, 200 numbers senior, so get over it, everybody got screwed except...everybody got screwed!!!! Mesaba senior captains got seniority but hate the new company (and most are leaving anyway), pinnacle senior captains are junior to the mesaba ones but are used to the company, and everybody below that aside from some colgan guys were simply jumbled up and mixed randomly and in a way which made no sense. Get over it. In the words of a particular person in management "If you don't like it, there's the door."
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Old 01-28-2014 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by flapsfail
It is that simple. There are quotas and each group fills its quotas, according to Bloch, and after that it goes on relative seniority. But somehow the other two groups don't see it that way and are going to fight tooth and nail like a bunch of entitled spoiled kids. So please enlighten me on what I'm suppose to ask the reps?
The lawyer that your pilot group agreed to use doesn't agree with you. It doesn't matter what the two other groups think, Bloch ruled and it is what it is. I don't think complaining on here isn't going to get you much sympathy. It is over, let it go.
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