Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
BB admits Pilot Shortage Chatauqua Done! >

BB admits Pilot Shortage Chatauqua Done!


Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

BB admits Pilot Shortage Chatauqua Done!

Old 02-11-2014 | 06:58 AM
  #31  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
Default

That's a nice letter. FACT that flying has been losing money for years now, its their attempt to spin the situation in their favor. This is just like when United cancel its planned houston to aukland service because of the Southwest hobby is getting a customs. Nevermind that the current flight data shows that the 787 couldn't even really make that route.
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 07:48 AM
  #32  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by IADBLRJ41
First I feel for the employee's who will be directly impacted with bases closing etc (pilots, ramp, Flight attendants).

However, in my opinion I am happy to see some of the regional excessive feed being reduced. Doesn't this present an opportunity for leverage for pilots and also allow the possibility of mainline having to look at adding new aircraft?

I hope RAH can use this as leverage to obtain a contract soon.
Not likely with the Toonsters busy spinning their wheels suing F9 about every perceived RJ injustice.
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 08:08 AM
  #33  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by SMACFUM
I'm not sure if the thousands number is correct, but I have heard from many people on this forum that RJET has a reputation for having a very high failure rate (between 40%-60%) in their interviews? Now, I completely understand trying to keep the bar high in the quality of pilots they are hiring, but this seems excessively high.

On one hand BB is saying they can't find pilots, and on the other they have one of the highest interview washout rates? Can anybody reconcile this?
Yes, what it means is there is a mixed bag and motley crew of folks that have probably failed every rating they have ever taken but just kept on flying and now have 1500 hours. I have instructed some students who I would never hire to do anything much less fly a plane. No one wants to tell them “you can’t” even if you put your mind to it.
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 08:21 AM
  #34  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Wet behind the ear pis$ ant FO
Default

"Regional airline replaces old undesireable aircraft with new better ones in collaboration with mainline partners"

Although this headline is not very self serving. Good to drum up fear when trying to negotiate contracts and repeal laws.
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 08:22 AM
  #35  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Let's make no mistake. We do not want the "1500 hour rule" repealed! This is the only leverage we have left to improve our pay and working conditions. Just like the American Medical Association controls access to medical schools, our industry needs to take control of the incoming pilot stream, and limit it. If you're a current airline pilot, the 1500 rule is a good thing.

Agreed..............
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 08:25 AM
  #36  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
So who's going to fill the void? Or are those jets just going to disappear? I know some of the CLE stuff was just going to go away. Doesn't seem like anybody is able to staff for current flying as is, let alone staff additional planes.
Cleveland flying is not going away, just being shifted to other hubs. This could be the reason for rumors of two or three RFPs for 145 flying out there..
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 08:49 AM
  #37  
MrObvious's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 148
Likes: 0
Default

ERJ-145-The SJS is not strong with this one, must shift to higher SJS aircraft to continue staffing poverty level wages.
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 09:27 AM
  #38  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 192
Default

Originally Posted by lolwut
Sounds like a bunch of airplanes that were going to be parked anyways.

I wonder if Pinnacle, Comair, etc can all blame their airplane parkings, retroactively, on the pilot shortage too.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't Pinnacle(Endeavor) parking all 140 CRJ's this year or next while only taking 40 larger CRJ's as replacements?
When I do the math, that works out to about 1000 pilots on the street.
Unless I am simply misiniformed about the status of those 140 50 seaters, that sounds more like a short term glut of pilots , rather than a shortage. (when they start parking them)
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 09:33 AM
  #39  
SDFflyboy's Avatar
CFI
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: CFI
Default

With the 145s exiting, are they going to shift the displaced crews to the incoming 170s coming online to cover for the lack of hiring into these new airplanes? This could be a temporary fix. I know there is talk about expanding the hanger in SDF to shift some 170 maintenance there.

Getting my popcorn!

I haven't seen any updates on contract negotiations. Are we still in the "cooling off" period?
Reply
Old 02-11-2014 | 09:38 AM
  #40  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by MaxQ
Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't Pinnacle(Endeavor) parking all 140 CRJ's this year or next while only taking 40 larger CRJ's as replacements?
When I do the math, that works out to about 1000 pilots on the street.
Unless I am simply misiniformed about the status of those 140 50 seaters, that sounds more like a short term glut of pilots , rather than a shortage. (when they start parking them)
As soon as Endeavor caved on the concessionary contract Anderson and Delta magically discovered they weren't going to park all those 200s. Also they are losing so many FOs Endeavor is trying to hire right now.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FLW2003
Cargo
44
02-24-2011 10:08 PM
JeepDrowner
Regional
85
10-03-2009 05:18 AM
forgot to bid
Major
485
04-03-2009 07:34 PM
dozer
Regional
13
04-07-2008 03:20 AM
Moe Rudda
Regional
21
02-16-2008 04:50 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices