the biggest problem facing egl pilots is a new mgmt. at AAG on pace to make 3.5 Billion this year and 10 Billion in the bank. They are drunk with power and their egos are so inflated that intelligent decisions are off the table.
Shareholders will watch this destruction of equity because the future is so bright that you have to wear shades.

 

This is actually round 3. During round 1 the company wanted an all out B scale.

This union was busted from within. The company merely followed the lead they were given and refused to acknowledge the MEC as a group who accurately represented the pilots. After cleaning house internally, our union SHOULD have said "tough s..., we're the collective bargaining agent, deal with it". Instead, seeking to have their ability to accurately represent be validated, they came to the pilots to deliver the resounding NO vote which they know is inevitable.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. So it goes for MECs as well. Two of our weak links were recently eliminated for going rogue and working a back room deal with the company without the MEC's knowledge or approval. One weak link who was most certainly involved in the plan remains and is in the process of being ousted. Another weak link who was probably not involved is resigning from union duty. After all that happens we should have a pretty clean shop!

 

Thanks! I am hoping for 90% or better but we'll see.

One could argue that it was your MEC, not your pilots who screwed you all over at PSA. If the MEC simply passes every worthless turd thrown their way at the pilots then what purpose do they serve?

 

Airline management is telling us they do not want or need airline pilots.

That statement may make no sense, but that is what these concession demands are... permanent C scale, that's your entire career outlook if you fall for it.

At some point we need to just believe them that they are not going to pay up and stop trying so hard to be there for them.

 

Yep, misery loves company!!!

 

a drowning man does not need a glass of water, and I would believe an airline management team why?

 

You misunderstood. I don't really believe them.

But if we say we do, if we give them everything they could possibly want in their wildest dreams, then basically no one will show up for this silliness anymore-- new pilots already have stopped showing up, and current pilots are leaving by the bushel. At XJT we have senior management asking (pleading?) for pilots to fly extra, because they have no present solution other than said pleading.

If the managements get what they want, they're the ones who are completely screwed, which is perfectly fine with me. They fail at that point, and the career joke is over. It is the backward logic of all of this that fails any test of intellectual review. It makes almost no sense, other than concessions are management's first, most stupid, most uncreative option for all problems. If they set contracts so far backward and so low that they cannot sustain the minimum required level of voluntary employment, then fine, game on. If there is no reason to show up, no one will. XJT management has no plan whatsoever for hiring or retention and Eagle management is trying to fool their people into a false belief of career advancement in exchange for surrender.

None of it works until a real career path is established, which is what none of these companies has done. Eagle may be closest, but not truly there yet. Eagle guys are closer to AA seniority numbers (today, not a flow-thru promise) than they yet realize. That should be the goal.

 

hold out for flow thru and better pay AE! The 4300 at XJT said no more! If you hold the line, that's over 7,000 pilots! Your and XJT mgmt. as well as RAH will hear that loudly! Now's not the time to compromise or equivocate. We have faith in you!

 

Can someone give me the link for the petition to recall Glenna

 

March 12, 2014

Base Visit – MIA

Fellow Pilots:

The TA base visits continued today in Miami.* Captains Sprague, Mark, Magee and Gardner were in attendance as well as Captain James Funderburk, and First Officer Ken Wells, Council 126 Representatives.* The Miami base visit was well attended.

On Saturday, March 15 the Dallas base visit will be conducted in the DFW crew room from 12noon until 5pm, and also on Sunday, March 16 from 9am until 12noon.* The Council 114 (Training Center) visit has been cancelled and will be rescheduled at the request of the 114 representative.* The NY base visits will be Thursday, March 20 in JFK from 9am until 3pm and Friday, March 21 in LGA from 10am until 4pm.** If possible, please stop by.* Refreshments will be served.

Pilot voting on the TA begins at 10:00am EDT on Thursday, the 13th of March and ends at 10:00am EDT on Friday, the 28th of March.* All active members in good standing are eligible to vote and voting will be conducted on the ALPA.org website.* Voting instructions will be made available in another communication prior to the start of voting.

John Gardner, Chairman

EGL ALPA Communication Committee

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Company Communication

Yesterday, Pedro Fábregas released a communication addressed to the pilot group and today released a communication addressed to the First Officers.* The communication yesterday contained bullet points discussing the TA and the current agreement.* The communication today discusses the First Officer pay reduction schedule.* We encourage all pilots to read and study all available communications as we move into the TA voting period and weigh them for the value of their information.

Many of you have pointed out the third bullet point, “Guaranteed enhanced flow-through” in the March 10 communication.* That bullet contains language that is in addition to the company’s obligations under the TA.** Mr. Fábregas referenced a 50% figure of additional flow throughs above the first 30 in any month.* In any month when AA hires at least 30 pilots, the first 30 of those pilots will be flow throughs from Eagle.* For example, if AA hires 70 pilots in one month, 35 would be flow throughs.* If AA hired any number between 30 and 60 pilots, 30 would be flow throughs.

In addition to the “first 30” and “50%” provisions, there are “true-up” provisions.* If AA hires less than 120 pilots during the last 4 months of 2014, ALL of those pilots will be flow throughs from Eagle.* Effective January 2015, if AA hires 360 or more pilots in any calendar year, AA will hire at least 360 Eagle flow throughs.* If in any calendar year, AA hires less than 360 pilots, AA will be required to offer to Eagle flow throughs a number of positions equal to 100% of the total new hire positions for the year.*

Examples:

Example 1: As of March 31, 2017 AA has hired and entered into training 180 pilots in 2017 and 90 of those are Eagle flowthrough pilots.* Due to an unexpected change in its hiring plan, AA stops hiring on March 31 and does not hire and enter into training off-the-street for the remainder of 2017.* AA is obligated to hire and enter into training and Eagle is obligated to release at least an additional 90 Eagle flowthrough pilots during the remainder of 2017 even though this brings AA’s total hiring for 2017 to 270 or more.*

Example 2: As of March 31, 2017 AA has hired and entered into training 180 pilots in 2017 and 90 of those are Eagle flowthrough pilots.* Due to an unexpected change in its hiring plan, AA reduces its hiring on April 1, 2017 to 15 pilots per month.* AA is obligated to hire and enter into training and Eagle is obligated to release an additional 15 Eagle flowthrough pilots per month to achieve a total of 180 Eagle flowthrough pilots and will fill 100% of AA’s classes during the remainder of 2017 until that is achieved.

Company emails are a valuable source of information for all pilots.* As with all other sources of information, the source should be considered and the data carefully weighed for suitable application.* Any website, social media vehicle or other source which seeks to influence a vote, as opposed to simply informing the pilots, should be very carefully considered.

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