Average pilot qual's for the regionals
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I think a really interesting question is whether Brian Bedford actually purgered himself when testifying in front of Congress very recently.
He testified that the highest qualified pilots were the lower time pilots because they could get them before they developed bad habits. He further said he has turned away a substantial amount of higher time candidates because they were not as qualified or developed bad habits.
But in retrospect, if that was true, why would Republic have posted hiring minimums much higher in past years on his watch?
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He testified that the highest qualified pilots were the lower time pilots because they could get them before they developed bad habits. He further said he has turned away a substantial amount of higher time candidates because they were not as qualified or developed bad habits.
But in retrospect, if that was true, why would Republic have posted hiring minimums much higher in past years on his watch?
Time period 47:55 through 48:40
and again at 53:40 through 56:00
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More like falsehoods being thrown out in an attempt to get the hiring minimum flight times lowered, instead of actually raising the pay for professional pilots to attract those that meet the existing minimums!
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I think a really interesting question is whether Brian Bedford actually purgered himself when testifying in front of Congress very recently.
He testified that the highest qualified pilots were the lower time pilots because they could get them before they developed bad habits. He further said he has turned away a substantial amount of higher time candidates because they were not as qualified or developed bad habits.
But in retrospect, if that was true, why would Republic have posted hiring minimums much higher in past years on his watch?
He testified that the highest qualified pilots were the lower time pilots because they could get them before they developed bad habits. He further said he has turned away a substantial amount of higher time candidates because they were not as qualified or developed bad habits.
But in retrospect, if that was true, why would Republic have posted hiring minimums much higher in past years on his watch?
....and if it wasn't perjury, it was certainly misleading.
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JSI, now PSA
ExpressOne, later Pinnacle
ACA did till fall of 1999, IIRC. They later went to a training contract, as did some others.
Late 90's, AWAC and AE had the same published mins, 2500TT, 1000ME, preferably 500 turbine with 121 or 135 experience.
PFT back then was more the norm, NOT the exception.
I don't remember, AE, AWAC, Great Lakes, TSA, Piedmont, or Allageny (SP) charging. But the last 2 had pretty high mins as well. I don't remember MESA or any of the subsidiaries having it. Maybe the companies that made up Eagle BEFORE there was AE did. Simmons, WingsWest, Nashville Eagle, etc.
I can't remember if Mesaba or UFS, or CCAir had it or not.
By the time the RJ's came online at the end of the PFT era, getting hired into a jet was right around $10k.
Also, back then many of them did conditional hiring. You interviewed at the airline, and were hired as long as you passed the flight training portion FIRST. Often times, MOST of the training (systems and sim) was done by an outsourced vendor, often FSI. After that was done, THEN you'd be sent to the airline's basic indoc course.
I REALLY wish in would have kept some of those AirInc books from "back in the day".
Pulling all this info from my Rainman memory is fatiguing.
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Bedford is chasing a fantasy...someday he'll realize that the system that he envisions still requires a $100k-$150K outlay by a prospective new-hire. There's no changing the fact that it will still require a much better and more immediate return on investment.
His fantasy of creating a pipeline of cheap, low-hour pilots is unrealistic.
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For sure. Good buddy of mine flew Metroliners for Eagle in the late '80s. I believe his salary was the same as regional FOs make today...except that this was in the late 80s, and in real terms, that means wages today are 50% lower (yes, half) what they were in the late 80s.
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