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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
(Post 1699461)
If you're sitting on at year one at Envoy or sitting at 5-6 or less years at Endeavor it might be worth it to move on to a company that has movement. I wouldn't tell a person to generally chase an upgrade. You have to evaluate your situation and make that decision. All I can do is speak from personal experience and how it's worked for me. If you are going to sit for another 5 years as an FO (that's you Endeavor) waiting to upgrade just because you don't want to start over at year 1 pay all while watching a good chunk of the other regionals upgrade a majority of their list during that same period you may star thinking you should have moved on to something better.
But like I said, I can't make a blanket statement that fits everyone's needs. If you can make it work and are willing to take a risk then I say do it. It's very risky but sometimes risk pays off in huge amounts.
Originally Posted by tom11011
(Post 1699463)
I think that just means either choose the right regional right off the bat if possible. If not possible, make your move to the right regional within the first year of employment at the wrong regional.
I know you're not supposed the chase the quick upgrade, but it would be nice to go somewhere where I know it won't take 7 years to upgrade. Any thoughts on future SKW movement? |
I don't work there, but it's common knowledge that the upgrade time is pretty long. I think seven years right now. There are a lot of career pilots towards the top since it's probably one of the best regionals for labor relations, and they've been on a hiring spree the last year or so, so there will be many ahead of you.
Complicating this are whispers of ExpressJet integration; that's speculative and may never happen. But if it does, it'll be interesting to see how seniority lists are integrated (and how many more people are suddenly ahead of you). SkyWest is a good company, but if you go, just realize you may be in that right seat a long time. |
Originally Posted by tom11011
(Post 1699463)
I think that just means either choose the right regional right off the bat if possible. If not possible, make your move to the right regional within the first year of employment at the wrong regional.
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Originally Posted by theycallmered
(Post 1699710)
So which are the right ones? Been trying to figure that out for some time.
Everyone always says "don't chase upgrades" and "live in base" but my feeling is pilots should prioritize a reasonable upgrade time first in their decision. Truth is both upgrade time and the ability to live in base can both change at anytime. But you make the best decision you can based on the information on hand at the time. |
What is Truth?
Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
(Post 1699498)
It's hard to know when you're constantly being lied to by management. If they would tell you the truth, good or bad, it would help you make a better decision.
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 1699746)
It's quite possible that management doesn't know what's going to happen either (although they might think they do). For example, when I was hired we had 7 pilot bases, and within a few years 6 of them were closed. :(
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Filling classes is great, but perhaps we need to be looking deeper. I am hearing that currently the big problem is getting guys through training. 40% attrition rate of a new hire before they get out of IOE is what ALPA tells us.
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
(Post 1699897)
Filling classes is great, but perhaps we need to be looking deeper. I am hearing that currently the big problem is getting guys through training. 40% attrition rate of a new hire before they get out of IOE is what ALPA tells us.
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
(Post 1699897)
Filling classes is great, but perhaps we need to be looking deeper. I am hearing that currently the big problem is getting guys through training. 40% attrition rate of a new hire before they get out of IOE is what ALPA tells us.
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
(Post 1699897)
Filling classes is great, but perhaps we need to be looking deeper. I am hearing that currently the big problem is getting guys through training. 40% attrition rate of a new hire before they get out of IOE is what ALPA tells us.
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