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View Poll Results: Should Regional Airlines Flatten Pay Scales
Yes, and I am a Regional Airline Captain 10 6.10%
Yes, and I am a Regional Airline First Officer 39 23.78%
Yes, and I am a Prospective Regional Airline Pilot 7 4.27%
Yes, and I am a Major Airline Pilot 11 6.71%
Yes, and I am a Non Airline Pro Pilot 6 3.66%
No, and I am a Regional Airline Captain 27 16.46%
No, and I am a Regional Airline First Officer 36 21.95%
No, and I am a Prospective Regional Airline Pilot 1 0.61%
No, and I am a Major Airline Pilot 22 13.41%
No, and I am a Non Airline Pro Pilot 5 3.05%
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:00 PM   #11  
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I think this is what Bedford wants. He would like to raise FO salaries by taking from the top. He complains the union won't let him give the new hires a "raise".
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Yup, very short sighted on their part. They are mostly made up of the entitlement generation so there ya have it.
Says the greedy old geezer who should have retired years ago but didn't because he was entitled to work longer and make more money and stagnate the industry. Get over yourself old man. I hope you're long gone before I get to the majors. I couldn't stand flying with your type. If I had a dollar every time an old person said "that d*** entitled generation"...it's getting really old, and every generation says the generation before them was entitled, and you sound ignorant.

To the OP, I think there should be a flattened out version. Not necessarily paid the same amount but bring up the pay for the FO. Captains do have more responsibly and are the boss...they should get paid more.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:31 PM   #13  
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Says the greedy old geezer who should have retired years ago but didn't because he was entitled to work longer and make more money and stagnate the industry. Get over yourself old man. I hope you're long gone before I get to the majors. I couldn't stand flying with your type. If I had a dollar every time an old person said "that d*** entitled generation"...it's getting really old, and every generation says the generation before them was entitled, and you sound ignorant.

To the OP, I think there should be a flattened out version. Not necessarily paid the same amount but bring up the pay for the FO. Captains do have more responsibly and are the boss...they should get paid more.
I'll be gone in 25 years. Keep hoping or delay your move up until then.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:49 PM   #14  
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AKBound,

Looks like you have quite a wait there--25 years!

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Old 08-25-2014, 09:10 PM   #15  
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I think this is what Bedford wants. He would like to raise FO salaries by taking from the top. He complains the union won't let him give the new hires a "raise".
Absolutely nothing wrong with that idea. I don't see why the losers that are not hireable anywhere else should keep being rewarded for their career failures at the expense of the newbies. The pot of money is only going to keep shrinking as the host airlines move to kill off the parasites like republic. Flattening of the payscales is all but inevitable.
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Absolutely not! We earned our paycheck so pay your dues and earn yours.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with that idea. I don't see why the losers that are not hireable anywhere else should keep being rewarded for their career failures at the expense of the newbies. The pot of money is only going to keep shrinking as the host airlines move to kill off the parasites like republic. Flattening of the payscales is all but inevitable.
No it's not. Also, a lot of the people I know who are choosing to stay at regionals for quality of life would never come on an anonymous message board and insult others for their career choices. You could be so much better than you choose to be.
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Absolutely not! We earned our paycheck so pay your dues and earn yours.
I hate this phrase so much. Making 20k a year is not paying your dues.

What about those who have been furloughed or their airline closed shop and they had to start over? Didn't they already pay their dues? What about guys who want to come to an airline from the 91/135 world and have already flown crap equipment, or worked for crap companies, just to build hours, haven't they paid their dues?

All you people who use "pay your dues" as an excuse for low pay need a reality check.
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Question is dumb, pretty much no one thinks Ca's and Fo's should be paid the same rate. However, regional divide between the two positions is higher then the major and higher then what Alpa claims their ideal monetary distribution should be.

Better would be, "Should there be SOME flattening of pay scales?". Ya probably.

But a better solution would be just to pressure for a reduction of the regional to major gap as a whole, preferably until FFD is no longer viable and we call the last 20 years a mulligan and move on.
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I hate this phrase so much. Making 20k a year is not paying your dues.

What about those who have been furloughed or their airline closed shop and they had to start over? Didn't they already pay their dues? What about guys who want to come to an airline from the 91/135 world and have already flown crap equipment, or worked for crap companies, just to build hours, haven't they paid their dues?

All you people who use "pay your dues" as an excuse for low pay need a reality check.
Says the guy who just got hired at Sky West. Probably fresh out of the academy
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