Originally Posted by jethikoki

Forget about Capt/FO pay. Explain why any FA should be paid more then any pilots. No FO at regionals should be getting less pay then the highest paid FA at a mainline.

Originally Posted by tunes

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Originally Posted by Anderson


There's just so much wrong with this kind of thinking.

Captains and FOs have the same training. They have the same type ratings. They have the same ATP certificates. The physical safety of both is equally at risk. Both have an equal responsibility for the safety of the passengers (FOs can kill everyone on board just the same as a captain can).

Captains put their good name and record on the line much more than FOs? How is that?? FOs put their records and certificates on the line just the same. So often both the captain AND the FO get fired and/or violated for incidents and accidents.

I realized a long time ago that captains do not earn their seats, as you suggest. If that was true, then how do you explain some regional captains upgrading in 18 months while others don't make it to the left seat for 8 years? Did the 8 year FO perform so poorly that it took him nearly 5 times longer to earn what the other guy did? It's simply a matter of luck and timing when someone is able to upgrade.

The pay scale disparity is completely asinine. You mentioned capitalism as if it's a factor; free market capitalism is no where to be found in unionized airline pilot pay scales. Companies hand over a certain amount of money to the whole pilot group, and unions divide up the money in a very artificial, anti free-market type of system.




There is no hope for you....you can't fix stupid.

Originally Posted by Anderson

Are you saying that pilot wages ARE determined by the free market? That upgrades ARE merit based? That FOs DON'T have an ATP and type rating just like a captain?

Seems like you can't argue against my rational points, so you're only response is to call it stupid.

Originally Posted by Anderson

Are you saying that pilot wages ARE determined by the free market? That upgrades ARE merit based? That FOs DON'T have an ATP and type rating just like a captain?

Seems like you can't argue against my rational points, so you're only response is to call it stupid.

Originally Posted by tunes

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Originally Posted by Anderson


Are you saying that pilot wages ARE determined by the free market? That upgrades ARE merit based? That FOs DON'T have an ATP and type rating just like a captain?

Seems like you can't argue against my rational points, so you're only response is to call it stupid.




My point still stands....and you continue to prove it. You are trying to argue that the CA and fo share the same responsibility.....that is absurd.

Originally Posted by Hetman

Or this guy; binky and all:

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=_Q5FdzHaOuE

Originally Posted by Paid2fly

Too bad Eastern Airlines isn't still around, you and Anderson could be first in line to cross...

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound

Says the greedy old geezer who should have retired years ago but didn't because he was entitled to work longer and make more money and stagnate the industry. Get over yourself old man. I hope you're long gone before I get to the majors. I couldn't stand flying with your type. If I had a dollar every time an old person said "that d*** entitled generation"...it's getting really old, and every generation says the generation before them was entitled, and you sound ignorant.

To the OP, I think there should be a flattened out version. Not necessarily paid the same amount but bring up the pay for the FO. Captains do have more responsibly and are the boss...they should get paid more.