This will make you mad!
10-08-2014, 08:38 PM
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Lol not if you buy into a large portion of posters in this section lol, notice I didn't say pilots, not sure how many of the loud complainers are actual pilots lol, there has always and will always be a surplus of pilots, competition is good, ever notice that the main entities that always profess they have access to the future pilot shortage crystal ball are always flight schools ? Buy a December copy of plane and pilot for every year going back 40 years and find the copy that says we are going to have a pilot surplus 😃 again the system has been the same for 30 plus years, the pilots that do the best the quickest are the ones that learn to play the game the fastest, time and time again you hear of the fed-x guy that did maybe 3-4years at a regional, hardly ever meet or hear from a mainline guy that did 15 years at the regionals
10-08-2014, 09:02 PM
#42
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Yeah, sorry you've been a FO for a couple years.
10-08-2014, 09:09 PM
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The only way to say there was a surplus 20 years ago is to count all the pilots on furlough. Also, the mins to get hired back then to fly a metroliner, banderante or some other ragged out TP were higher than the ATP rule today.
Yeah, sorry you've been a FO for a couple years.
Yeah, sorry you've been a FO for a couple years.
They were way higher to fly a Navajo !
10-08-2014, 09:18 PM
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"Yeah, sorry you've been a FO for a couple years"
Im not complaining nor do I have any sense of entitlement. This is career number 2 for me and Im probably a little further along in life than you're assuming. Thanks for your sympathy though.
How many majors today have pilots on furlough? That is my point. Pilots are in demand.
The majors may be not feeling it because they have about 18,000 applicants, but down here at the regionals y'all it's a different story.
At ease and carry on!
Im not complaining nor do I have any sense of entitlement. This is career number 2 for me and Im probably a little further along in life than you're assuming. Thanks for your sympathy though.
How many majors today have pilots on furlough? That is my point. Pilots are in demand.
The majors may be not feeling it because they have about 18,000 applicants, but down here at the regionals y'all it's a different story.
At ease and carry on!
10-08-2014, 09:20 PM
#46
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I don't think there was ever a time where regional FO's were high paid. Low regional FO pay is nothing new. One difference now is there are lots of six figure RJ Captains. That was unheard of not too long ago.
10-08-2014, 09:32 PM
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In terms of purchasing power, they were making more in the past. At 9E, we are back to the old 2004 XJ rates. Against a basket of commodities, $100K today, is equivalent to about $40K in 1990's pay.
10-08-2014, 09:58 PM
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Sky pilot, same here, a retirement income is what's alowing me to make this step, I was one of those guys 20 years ago that decided to go a different route, well wife leaving me with the kids helped lol but in the end it worked out just fine,
10-09-2014, 01:16 AM
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I think that one thing everyone seems to over look is its not as simple as big bad managers or ceo's the vast majority of airlines are publicly traded company's that are held accountable to there share holders, and whether you think it's sucks or you support it, one things for sure, capitalism is what's made it all possible, I guess we have the choice of going over to Russia and flying there, my personal belief is that over the last 20 years one major thing has been over looked, 20 years ago a young man or women wanted to become an airline pilot they did so knowing and was encouraged to be very flexible in life, if you lived in Florida and your next step involved moving to California, you packet up and went without batting an eye, now you see young regional pilots buying, new cars, maybe houses, having kids, all the things that lock you in. It's not that the system has changed so much in 20 years, it's that the pilots have, so the easiest thing to do in our minds is get the system to change to fit our lifestyles and needs, well good luck with that. Opportunities are still around for pilots at the major level, they just have to be willing to sacrifice to get there. Talk to any senior mainline pilot, I'm talking guys 55 plus, ups, fed-x, delta, ect. They will all tell you about eating top romen and barely getting by in there early years,
10-09-2014, 04:57 AM
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