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Old 11-28-2014 | 07:56 AM
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SKW recently made it clear that they would shrink before raising pilot pay. This was reported via a SAPA conference call.

Guess they're afraid that if they lock in a raise them be uncompetitive in the long run.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 07:58 AM
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All anyone cares is when the purported shortage will result in "pains" in the hiring at the majors.

Shortage because a regional CEO said one exists ? FAIL

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Old 11-28-2014 | 08:10 AM
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(per RickAir) That's why I have trouble with all these claims there is a pilot shortage when you have tons of pilots sitting around. I left airlines in fact and have been cold-called by an airline maybe once, ever. The real story is they do not want to pay anything, and they are not calling anybody because they already know the answer is "no, I can make more at Home Depot".
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Old 11-28-2014 | 08:15 AM
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There is no shortage of pilots with ATPs in hand.

Just a lot of us can't or won't work for regional wages.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by E2CMaster
There is no shortage of pilots with ATPs in hand.

Just a lot of us can't or won't work for regional wages.
Which for all intents and purposes for the regionals produces the same result. It isn't just pay, the regionals have a well-deserved reputation as sweatshops run by unsympathetic bosses who place no value in their employees, including plots.

It's the perfect recipe for ultimate faliure.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 09:09 AM
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Again, no pilot shortage at the majors. Period, the end.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Back when things were crazy around 2007, pilots fresh out of flight school were going straight to 121 operations....so all the aviation jobs that relied on experience builders got screwed; flight schools, sky dive operations, banner tow, 135, some corporate, aerial survey, etc. Who was coming to their rescue??? Nobody.. I don't understand why the world needs to come crashing down to bail out the regionals, who oh by the way, provide lift for some of the heaviest hitters in all of aviation. If things are so bad, Delta, United, AA, and Alaska can provide the resources and programs to shore up their pilot feed. If they, don't, the problem is of their own making. Enough with the sob stories.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
Again, no pilot shortage at the majors. Period, the end.
Nope. Plenty of regional pilots to pick from. Now in 5-7 years when the regionals are dry (or non-existent) ?
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Old 11-28-2014 | 10:19 AM
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SkyWest isn't losing the Bros or those cities because of a pilot shortage. The Bro is too expensive to fly because of part availability and part suppliers no longer doing business. It's lost its economic advantage. Chico and Redding need more funding to add the CRJ.

No pilot shortage on SKW side. Great Mistakes airline on the other hand has a shortage of qualified volunteers/interns to fly their routes.
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Old 11-28-2014 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Nope. Plenty of regional pilots to pick from. Now in 5-7 years when the regionals are dry (or non-existent) ?
I don't know. I think we have enough mil-pilots coming off Iraq/Afghan and whatever else world hotspot with plenty of international and etc time to keep the majors happy.

Plus the non-legacy guys not at FDX, AAL, SWA but at Frontier, Spirit, (maybe put JBLU into that mix also), Atlas, etc who have apps in at majors with Airbus, Boeing time on their resume.

Then all the captains across the regionals who meet ATP/etc have PIC experience

So, I don't know.

See you in 2021 and we can talk then.
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