This is what a pilot shortage really does
#11
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SKW recently made it clear that they would shrink before raising pilot pay. This was reported via a SAPA conference call.
Guess they're afraid that if they lock in a raise them be uncompetitive in the long run.
Guess they're afraid that if they lock in a raise them be uncompetitive in the long run.
#12
All anyone cares is when the purported shortage will result in "pains" in the hiring at the majors.
Shortage because a regional CEO said one exists ? FAIL
Shortage because a regional CEO said one exists ? FAIL
Last edited by satpak77; 11-28-2014 at 08:01 AM. Reason: poor wording first version
#13
(per RickAir) That's why I have trouble with all these claims there is a pilot shortage when you have tons of pilots sitting around. I left airlines in fact and have been cold-called by an airline maybe once, ever. The real story is they do not want to pay anything, and they are not calling anybody because they already know the answer is "no, I can make more at Home Depot".
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It's the perfect recipe for ultimate faliure.
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Back when things were crazy around 2007, pilots fresh out of flight school were going straight to 121 operations....so all the aviation jobs that relied on experience builders got screwed; flight schools, sky dive operations, banner tow, 135, some corporate, aerial survey, etc. Who was coming to their rescue??? Nobody.. I don't understand why the world needs to come crashing down to bail out the regionals, who oh by the way, provide lift for some of the heaviest hitters in all of aviation. If things are so bad, Delta, United, AA, and Alaska can provide the resources and programs to shore up their pilot feed. If they, don't, the problem is of their own making. Enough with the sob stories.
#19
SkyWest isn't losing the Bros or those cities because of a pilot shortage. The Bro is too expensive to fly because of part availability and part suppliers no longer doing business. It's lost its economic advantage. Chico and Redding need more funding to add the CRJ.
No pilot shortage on SKW side. Great Mistakes airline on the other hand has a shortage of qualified volunteers/interns to fly their routes.
No pilot shortage on SKW side. Great Mistakes airline on the other hand has a shortage of qualified volunteers/interns to fly their routes.
#20
Plus the non-legacy guys not at FDX, AAL, SWA but at Frontier, Spirit, (maybe put JBLU into that mix also), Atlas, etc who have apps in at majors with Airbus, Boeing time on their resume.
Then all the captains across the regionals who meet ATP/etc have PIC experience
So, I don't know.
See you in 2021 and we can talk then.
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