Why are regional pilots so juvenile?
12-30-2014 | 04:08 AM
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Careful. Many of your colleagues who started their careers in the early to mid 1990s needed 1500 hours to get hired by the commuters also. Not because it was regulatory at the time, but because those were the prerequisites required by the airlines.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
12-30-2014 | 06:09 AM
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From: Prone
Need I say more? Anonymity brings out the worst in people, I wouldn't take this forum as an accurate sampling of the mentality of the pilot population.
12-30-2014 | 06:18 AM
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From: CL65
I agree, and doubt that half of the people on here are real pilots. They are probably just teenage sim/gamers. The other forums kick them out, but they seem to be encouraged here on APC.
12-30-2014 | 06:33 AM
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Bravo. These whiny Jet U kids today have no idea how good they have it. The biggest difference is that in those days, it was unheard of to spend more than two years at a "commuter" before moving on to a Midway so you could build Jet Time to get that Coveted Majors Job flying a 30 year old DC9 around the state of Michigan for $23,000 a year.
Guys are upset at the working conditions at regionals, guess what they have always sucked. I get it that guys hate being treated like the red haired bast@rd step child but it has always been this way. All pilots should have fully researched the career path for a pilot prior to starting down this journey, if they didn't that's their fault. While I would love to see the life at the regionals improve it is going to be a long road for these changes to be implemented. The biggest light I can see for those currently employed by a regional is the massive hiring that is going to take place at the majors will mean those that are qualified, work hard, and prepare will most likely be hired.
12-30-2014 | 06:48 AM
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I cannot get over the fact that regional pilots act like grade school children compared with other 121/135, corporate and even flight instructors.
I read forums, talk with major/LCC, 135, 91 pilots and flight instructors, and cannot get over the fact that regional pilots (not all but most) are very juvenile. The comments I hear and read regarding the industry are at times idiotic. I rarely read any corporate or major/lcc (or even flight instructors) sling so many insulting comments at one another as I do regional pilots.
Why is this? Besides the age (mostly newbies) in the regional industry, there's no reason we should be behaving like this. Nobody's d**k is that much bigger than the next guys, but yet most of you need to puff your chests out and throw insults at each other.
We are all in the same game, suck it up and try to act like men. If we would just stick together we could make a change, but I fear we are too far gone to have that happen.
Instead lets just keep slinging sh*t and bring this industry even farther down the drain.
I read forums, talk with major/LCC, 135, 91 pilots and flight instructors, and cannot get over the fact that regional pilots (not all but most) are very juvenile. The comments I hear and read regarding the industry are at times idiotic. I rarely read any corporate or major/lcc (or even flight instructors) sling so many insulting comments at one another as I do regional pilots.
Why is this? Besides the age (mostly newbies) in the regional industry, there's no reason we should be behaving like this. Nobody's d**k is that much bigger than the next guys, but yet most of you need to puff your chests out and throw insults at each other.
We are all in the same game, suck it up and try to act like men. If we would just stick together we could make a change, but I fear we are too far gone to have that happen.
Instead lets just keep slinging sh*t and bring this industry even farther down the drain.
12-30-2014 | 06:54 AM
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Careful. Many of your colleagues who started their careers in the early to mid 1990s needed 1500 hours to get hired by the commuters also. Not because it was regulatory at the time, but because those were the prerequisites required by the airlines.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
12-30-2014 | 07:01 AM
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I cannot get over the fact that regional pilots act like grade school children compared with other 121/135, corporate and even flight instructors.
I read forums, talk with major/LCC, 135, 91 pilots and flight instructors, and cannot get over the fact that regional pilots (not all but most) are very juvenile. The comments I hear and read regarding the industry are at times idiotic. I rarely read any corporate or major/lcc (or even flight instructors) sling so many insulting comments at one another as I do regional pilots.
Why is this? Besides the age (mostly newbies) in the regional industry, there's no reason we should be behaving like this. Nobody's d**k is that much bigger than the next guys, but yet most of you need to puff your chests out and throw insults at each other.
We are all in the same game, suck it up and try to act like men. If we would just stick together we could make a change, but I fear we are too far gone to have that happen.
Instead lets just keep slinging sh*t and bring this industry even farther down the drain.
I read forums, talk with major/LCC, 135, 91 pilots and flight instructors, and cannot get over the fact that regional pilots (not all but most) are very juvenile. The comments I hear and read regarding the industry are at times idiotic. I rarely read any corporate or major/lcc (or even flight instructors) sling so many insulting comments at one another as I do regional pilots.
Why is this? Besides the age (mostly newbies) in the regional industry, there's no reason we should be behaving like this. Nobody's d**k is that much bigger than the next guys, but yet most of you need to puff your chests out and throw insults at each other.
We are all in the same game, suck it up and try to act like men. If we would just stick together we could make a change, but I fear we are too far gone to have that happen.
Instead lets just keep slinging sh*t and bring this industry even farther down the drain.
12-30-2014 | 07:02 AM
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At 1800/200 I was one of the lowest in my class at Great Lakes in the late 90s. At ASA, with 2500/500 turbine I was still on the low side. To fly a Brasilia at both places mind you.
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