Why are regional pilots so juvenile?
12-30-2014 | 07:05 AM
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Your mom's on guard. How's that for idiotic? The greatest aspect of draining the regionals into the bowels of bowery existence and the social cesspool among others is born by chasing tails. Going back to first-year pay in search of that upgrade. That keeps us cheap, marketable, and stupid as it were. Furthermore, there is no unity at all. Zero. It's every man for himself. I don't like it either, but that sh17 will not change. Back to the name calling please. I'll take the bashing. It's fun.
12-30-2014 | 07:07 AM
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The forums do tend to bring out the worst in many, perhaps in some ways like alcohol can. I think it's a true test of character when one conducts themselves online as if they were being observed by their employer (present, future, or otherwise). While I've had my less than perfect moments on forums, I really do try my best to be positive, helpful, and friendly. Much as I strive to do in real life.
As far as one group being worse than another, I've not noticed a difference, particularly in real life. Even among supposedly "rival" pilot groups, most I've encountered in person at the airport, jumpseating, and so on have been professional and enjoyable to talk with. Just my $0.02...
As far as one group being worse than another, I've not noticed a difference, particularly in real life. Even among supposedly "rival" pilot groups, most I've encountered in person at the airport, jumpseating, and so on have been professional and enjoyable to talk with. Just my $0.02...
12-30-2014 | 07:09 AM
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Even at SKW in early 2011, I was middle of the pack in experience as a new hire with over 2000 hours, 1000 multi, and a PIC jet type. This was also for the Brasilia. It's a very cyclical industry...
12-30-2014 | 07:19 AM
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The pilot demographic is pretty demanding as far as career expectations and when they get to their first airline they find out it's mostly just a ton of hard work with marginal quality of life and low pay for the sacrifice involved. I am quite sympathetic to that disappointment and it should change for the better- stronger unions are needed. But the buck stops with each and every one of us who has the freedom to choose what we think, one way or the other. The world is simply what you make of it and we are only here for a little while; there are positives to any job and you can dwell on that or complain until you see only the bad things. The goal is to maintain a balanced viewpoint.
12-30-2014 | 07:42 AM
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The forums do tend to bring out the worst in many, perhaps in some ways like alcohol can. I think it's a true test of character when one conducts themselves online as if they were being observed by their employer (present, future, or otherwise). While I've had my less than perfect moments on forums, I really do try my best to be positive, helpful, and friendly. Much as I strive to do in real life.
As far as one group being worse than another, I've not noticed a difference, particularly in real life. Even among supposedly "rival" pilot groups, most I've encountered in person at the airport, jumpseating, and so on have been professional and enjoyable to talk with. Just my $0.02...
As far as one group being worse than another, I've not noticed a difference, particularly in real life. Even among supposedly "rival" pilot groups, most I've encountered in person at the airport, jumpseating, and so on have been professional and enjoyable to talk with. Just my $0.02...
12-30-2014 | 07:57 AM
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Careful. Many of your colleagues who started their careers in the early to mid 1990s needed 1500 hours to get hired by the commuters also. Not because it was regulatory at the time, but because those were the prerequisites required by the airlines.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
In fact, in 1996 most required 1500 hours TT, 500 ME, AND a $10,000 "investment" to the good folks at FSI for training. If you passed that successfully you could go fly a Jetstream 31 for $13,000 per year. The exception were Piedmont and Allegheny, who both required 2500 TT and a lunar landing to get an interview...
So forgive me if I have trouble empathizing with the plight of those who were burdened by the "glorified and ridiculous" 1500 hour rule.
12-30-2014 | 08:24 AM
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What is the fun in going to a forum to act the same as you would with a jumpseater, as an example. Only company chearleaders do that who have other motives for being here. That's the point of these anonymous forums, once the new guys are taken care of the guys with experience do their anonymous venting. I think that's why most come here, for entertainment. Not to be politically correct.
12-30-2014 | 08:25 AM
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When you hear the idiots on guard making weird, creepy noises, most of us assume it's some regional guy, "RJ Kids" as I heard someone call them out last week, someone who was doing the same thing in high school detention a few years ago. They are less mature because... well, because they are less mature. And they know they have an audience. And they may not have a college degree flying their RJ around, so they know at best they are going to be stuck at the absolute rear end of the major's hiring line behind the guys who did complete college, so they have resentment, so they know they can feel superior if they can irritate the generally more mature professionals.
12-30-2014 | 08:30 AM
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When you hear the idiots on guard making weird, creepy noises, most of us assume it's some regional guy, "RJ Kids" as I heard someone call them out last week, someone who was doing the same thing in high school detention a few years ago. They are less mature because... well, because they are less mature. And they know they have an audience. And they may not have a college degree flying their RJ around, so they know at best they are going to be stuck at the absolute rear end of the major's hiring line behind the guys who did complete college, so they have resentment, so they know they can feel superior if they can irritate the generally more mature professionals.
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