Bombardier sells 24 CRJ900 aircraft
01-02-2015 | 11:32 AM
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From: Just another RJ guy
One of the more persistant myths out there. DL and all large airlines cater to all travelers. A lot of so called "LCC's" fare structures are pretty shady bait and switch tactics. Doesn't one of them even charge a kings ransome for a paper boarding pass, which is required to board? LOL!
No airline the size of any legacy or anywhere close can survive by somply "catering to the business traveler". There aren't anywhere near enough business travelers to fill networks of that size; not even close.
Yet every so called "LCC" and every future ponzi scheme start up that comes along always tries to float the same lie. Hey, why not though? Airport boards keep buying it! LOL!
No airline the size of any legacy or anywhere close can survive by somply "catering to the business traveler". There aren't anywhere near enough business travelers to fill networks of that size; not even close.
Yet every so called "LCC" and every future ponzi scheme start up that comes along always tries to float the same lie. Hey, why not though? Airport boards keep buying it! LOL!
And the EJet is better than the CRJ captain tony.
01-02-2015 | 11:54 AM
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At the end of the day they are both RJ's being flown for peanuts. Passenger satisfaction between the ERJ and the CRJ are very similar according to what I have seen on deltanet. The individuals arguing over whose airplane is better should take a break and go drink a beer and watch football and then get laid. What a stupid argument.
01-02-2015 | 12:21 PM
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I think your argument is invalid for several reasons. Alaska is getting Embraers for SkyWest, why didn't they buy CRJ's...guessing it has to do with range. The Embraer also is more flexible in short field conditions, take for example Chicago Midway, I've piloted both a 900 and a 175 in there, and Ide take a 175 in there 24/7/365, due to its flexibility in lowering ref speeds with a full flap configuration rather than Flaps 5, range wise the Ejet is a better product, it allows greater range and the ability to be less restrictive on weight, again I've flown both over a route like LGA-DFW, in the 900 you'de be stopping for gas with a strong headwind or having an alternate, the Embraer wouldn't be as restrictive. The 900 only has a forward galley, if your catering during boarding then you have to stop, not so in the Embraer. VNAV in the Embraer allows for lower approach minimums on certain GPS approaches. I could go on and on simply put, having 1500+ hours in both airplanes Ide take the Embraer over the CRJ every day...
01-02-2015 | 12:41 PM
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Definitely not a myth. Delta cares more about the HVPs than anyone else out there. Their business accounts, which make them ridiculous amounts of money, matter more to them than the leisure traveler from SEA-HNL. Look at the amount of time, money and effort spent trying to make these medallion members happy. The leisure travelers fill up seats in the back and help pay for the gas. Baggage fees from the peasants help cover the rest of the operating costs (yes, I'm being fiascos but you get my point).
And the EJet is better than the CRJ captain tony.
And the EJet is better than the CRJ captain tony.
Yes, of course DL cares about business travelers. Maybe even more than most or anyone. But my point stands. Take away all non business pax and every US airline liquidates instantly. Just because you focus on certain passengers/markets doesn't mean you're not competing hard for the others. Thats like saying Ford only cares about the F150 and they have no problem surrendering as much of the rest of their lineup as the competition wants to take, whenever they want to take it.
Yet here come the LCC's lobbying the gullible airport boards with their own money thinking they have cracked the code with the "Southwest Effect" dujure. Pulling demand out of thin air, all from Greyhound, if you build it they will come, blah blah blah. Nevermind that a large amount of their routes are between well established, extremely highly saturated markets but I'm sure they'll be manufacturing millions of new customers per year in each one LOL!
Yes DL cares about business pax. Of course. But they care deeply about leisure and infrequent passengers as well because they add up to numbers so big you can't run an airline without them. They are every bit as mission critical.
01-02-2015 | 07:19 PM
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01-04-2015 | 02:27 PM
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I can't believe how many pages were spent over the most insignificant bloody argument.
I think the SkyWest Ejets with the swept back winglets and LED external lights are better than all the other ones with the more vertical winglets and conventional external lights. They're not as blinding at night. Sheesh.
I think the SkyWest Ejets with the swept back winglets and LED external lights are better than all the other ones with the more vertical winglets and conventional external lights. They're not as blinding at night. Sheesh.
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