Relax? Lol

Just posting the news and watching the fireworks.

I don't give 2 $hitz.

 

In the past week 9E twice has had to do fuel stops in BNA on both the JFK-SAT and JFK-DFW legs thanks to strong headwinds. I think at the LGA base there was a fuel stop included on the LGA-IAH leg too. Does seem the E-jet has a slight range advantage.

 

Getting a little defensive about the miracle E Jet aren't you?

The fact remains there is no significant difference or advantage in getting the E jet over the larger CRJ's at this point for DL. But how could that be? The E Jet is this radically superior game changer and only those who have it can succeed?

 

One of the more persistant myths out there. DL and all large airlines cater to all travelers. A lot of so called "LCC's" fare structures are pretty shady bait and switch tactics. Doesn't one of them even charge a kings ransome for a paper boarding pass, which is required to board? LOL!

No airline the size of any legacy or anywhere close can survive by somply "catering to the business traveler". There aren't anywhere near enough business travelers to fill networks of that size; not even close.

Yet every so called "LCC" and every future ponzi scheme start up that comes along always tries to float the same lie. Hey, why not though? Airport boards keep buying it! LOL!

 

Depends on the station I guess. I'd MUCH rather valet tag my large carry on and have it returned to the top of the jetbridge than hope to get to a mini E Jet overhead first so I can cram jackets and computer bags into the corner of one of their mini bins and put my roller board in the long way because it still can't fit wheels first.

Some stations take forever to bring the valet bags up, and that is a PITA. Others are pretty fast about it though and when they do it right it works well. Either way though, that's hardly a game changer either. Its also nicer when the cabin runs out of room (which happens a LOT on every plane type from CRJ ro ERJ to Mainline) valet tagging is vastly superior to the "gate check" wormhole hoping you see it again on the other side, which is exctly what you get on the overhyped E Jet most of the time when its full, which is often.

Its not my intention to defend the CRJ series regional jets; there's nothing special about them and they aren't as good as mainline. They aren't even as good as the larger EMB's. But neither is the revolutionary game changer must have some people are trying to make them out to be. Some "RJ's" suck a little bit less than other RJ's. Big deal. There is clearly an advantage for DL to get some more CRJ's. Maybe its price maybe its staffing maybe its a long term chess move looking 5-10 years down the road with the upcoming "rate reset" and other contingencies. Who knows. Who cares. Watching the regional version of pilots fawning over their 757 (E170 series) is pretty entertaining though.

 

I think it's funny how you sit there and criticize everything in my post, and take shots at me, you seem awfully defensive about your CRJ...says the 15+ year lifer at ASA/Expressjet...seems like other people in this thread are discounting alot of your statements . My post was not bashing the CRJ in any way nor was it bashing any airline, we were simply discussing differences in AC and flexibility, yet you feel inclined to puff out your chest and start personal attacks, boy, I'de love flying with you on a 4 day (sarcasm)

 

Defensive? How do you get that. I don't even fly the thing. I'm not saying it's radically superior. It's an RJ for f's sake. I'm saying that it isn't always about being the cheapest.

 

I didn't say it was always about being the cheapest either. Cheap can mean a lot of things besides acquisition costs of course, but whatever.

The defensive comment was in reference to the "shut up and color you stupid pilot" vibe about anyone disagreeing with you not having the cranial capacity to "count beans". That's how it came across, but again whatever.

This order in question likely isn't even for DL or possibly for any US airline, who knows. Who cares. The regionals are going to get whatever planes they are going to get. While I admit the E170-190 series has a nicer cabin with longer range, lower landing mins in some cases and shorter field performance, the fact remains that all of that…all of it…is 100% irrelevant on the vast majority of routes its used on. On those few routes where it truly is a difference maker, DL has plenty of them in the fleet to allocate to those few routes and then some.

The 757 is a superior plane too. But they don't make it anymore. Seems like cost really is the most important factor. The E175 is a nicer tube than the CRJ900. And no one cares. At least no one cares enough to change airlines over it.

 

That's all you've got? Lol!

 

Im honestly not sure why DL keeps buying CRJ's... AA and UAL are buying Ejets left and right, pax love em, and they are less restrictive to certain airports...a CRJ will always be a CRJ no matter how long the tube is...[/QUOTE]

Ok think about this....in the US Airways system there are a lot of the Ejets. However they are not better and here's why. There are NO EJETS handled by PDT ground services, AKA Express terminals at any hubs. They are all handled at mainline gates with mainline ground folks. And that IS NOT cheaper than pulling up on express ramp and dropping the air stair door. And it takes ONE belt loader, couple guys. Ejet is two belt loaders, and a scissor truck to cater. CRJ needs a golf cart. And if you think that it costs the same to have a crew of PDT Express ground people compared to mainline you are wrong. So just that point alone is enough reason why these airlines keep buying the CRJ product. And this goes for all three majors. Who wants to give up gate space at LGA or ORD when you can stack CRJs five deep and drop the steps. And all three majors have regional ground ops for the Express Connection Eagle end of things for a reason.

As far as undisclosed orders are concerned. No public company can secretly order airplanes with publicly traded funds WITHOUT disclosing what they are buying.....SEC frowns on hiding billion dollar spending.
So chances are its overseas. or a private US airline.