Timing is everything - PR campaigns
04-02-2015, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
The only way to raise regional pay... The only, only way...is if a vast segment of the regional pilot population simply resigns and nobody steps up to apply for those jobs. It's simple supply and demand.
As for a public campaign, the American public is quite content to shop at Walmart, where many employees require food stamps to survive. The average Joe just wants to get to Chicago for the cheapest airfare possible...
As for a public campaign, the American public is quite content to shop at Walmart, where many employees require food stamps to survive. The average Joe just wants to get to Chicago for the cheapest airfare possible...
04-02-2015, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Now you've got it. Appealing to general public doesn't buy you anything. Only regional pilots can save regional pilots. And frankly, regional pilots don't really care about their situation otherwise something would have been done a long time ago. Regional pilots will only go as far as complain on a website forum BUT THATS IT. That's the extent of how much they care. As a result, both company and alpa take advantage. In fact, alpa keeps the regional pilot group in line for the company. Imagine the chaos if all regional airlines simply went unionless.
04-02-2015, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
For most regional pilots, there's really no point in trying to improve things. This is just supposed to be a temporary stop to gain experience and see if you have what it takes to move on to the majors. Putting your career on the line for an extra two bucks an hour is simply not something most regional pilots would be willing to do.
04-02-2015, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
The only way to raise regional pay... The only, only way...is if a vast segment of the regional pilot population simply resigns and nobody steps up to apply for those jobs. It's simple supply and demand.
And if ALPA national was really forward thinking and not in mgmt's back pocket (2 immediate disqualifiers), it would see how such a thing could be leveraged to it's members own benefit as well.
In fact, this is probably the best path to undoing the damage wrought by allowing the creation of the regionals in the 1st place. Which is why it will never, ever happen (see: disqualifiers).
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04-02-2015, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by encore
Hah! Discouraging future pilots? From the union that brought us this website?
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Almost every professional organization in the world has figured out that supply and demand is what controls wages. They can't control demand so they control supply by creating barriers to entry for the profession. Not ALPA though.
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Almost every professional organization in the world has figured out that supply and demand is what controls wages. They can't control demand so they control supply by creating barriers to entry for the profession. Not ALPA though.
04-02-2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYZERG
BRB going to fly 1400NM on leg one hub to hub, I only hope one day I have what it takes to be a real pilot.
You see where the problem is?
04-02-2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
This is just supposed to be a temporary stop to see if you have what it takes to move on to the majors.
04-02-2015, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
You still don't get it. None of that makes any difference in the real world. If I had the power and told you that we were going to now cut $100 per week from your paycheck, you would still be ok with it. You would still fly that 1400NM trip. Don't deny it.
You see where the problem is?
You see where the problem is?
04-02-2015, 12:14 PM
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I think ALPA should hire some of these guys...
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They actually make even less money than a regional airline FO.
Of course such businesses exist in the west as well but instead of pushing political agendas they push corporate agendas. There were a bunch of these types of operations running in New York City. Often now this type of professional trolling is contracted out to Asia where they can get cheap labor.
You can be assured the airlines are including this in their paid PR campaigns. Where do you think Putin learned it.
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They actually make even less money than a regional airline FO.
Of course such businesses exist in the west as well but instead of pushing political agendas they push corporate agendas. There were a bunch of these types of operations running in New York City. Often now this type of professional trolling is contracted out to Asia where they can get cheap labor.
You can be assured the airlines are including this in their paid PR campaigns. Where do you think Putin learned it.
04-02-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
What....prove you can swallow gallons of abuse? This is supposed to be a legitimate career, not an S&M club.
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