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DSRoss996 05-07-2015 07:47 AM

Maybe I just don't get it, but why couldn't BB just say "sorry Delta, due to our long term 'one fleet strategy' and our difficulty attracting new pilots we are unable to extend the 145'contract." What am I missing?

tothebigblue 05-07-2015 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 1875508)
I think it's more of a "if we're not happy, you won't be happy", as in both DL and UA being upset. I would say that Delta is more sensitive to performance, or lack of.

Basically what delta does, usually the other 2 are going to follow suit. Having said that, I think those 175s are going to go to someone else. When RAH is canceling more than 80 flights a day when those come online.

Bonanzer 05-07-2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1875514)
Basically what delta does, usually the other 2 are going to follow suit. Having said that, I think those 175s are going to go to someone else. When RAH is canceling more than 80 flights a day when those come online.

Shuttle has the worst of the cancellations. Republic hovers around 1-3%. I'm not sure how much of that is crew cancellation. My guess is they moved the United 175s to republic to survive the summer.

Nantonaku 05-07-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 1875253)
Seriously...........How in god's name do they expect to staff it? Yesterday Shuttle America had the highest number of canceled flights of any airline IN THE WORLD (according to FlightAware).

Also heard a rumor that Delta has been hanging out in crew scheduling to see what's been going on firsthand for themselves.

Someone mentioned this last week and I started to follow the numbers. It looks like it wasn't just yesterday, basically every single day they lead the world in cancellations. It seems weird that they even attempted to keep the 145's.

FEtoFO 05-07-2015 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 1875253)
Seriously...........How in god's name do they expect to staff it? Yesterday Shuttle America had the highest number of canceled flights of any airline IN THE WORLD (according to FlightAware).

Also heard a rumor that Delta has been hanging out in crew scheduling to see what's been going on firsthand for themselves.

That's no rumor! Delta and United have both been in HQ to "monitor" the situation.

Who cares if we get a new contract! It will not help to stop attrition, because many are leaving to much better places. I just flew with a 2014 hire last week, and he is actively looking to get out of this place. This place sucks because of the culture, and the contract is a product of that culture. We will have a new contract soon, but I doubt it will be industry leading, and I don't expect much of a signing bonus.

basesjuiced 05-07-2015 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by NVUS (Post 1875499)
Competition? Like SkyWest, who has another 143 E-175s on order, and 200 more options? Maybe I understood the context wrong but you make it sound like Republic is gobbling up contracts to keep the competition at bay. If they can't have it, no one can have it.

yah skywest is going to take over rah's delta flying dokay!! from where, SLC? DEN? Haha, who cares how many 170's they have on order. Can order as many rj's as you want you still need pilots to fly them. simple fact of the matter is delta couldn't yank rah's flying and just hand it to some other regional and see the reliability and efficiency improve. the only hope any regional has today of attracting enough pilots to fly their crappy flying is quick upgrades and that ship has sailed for most.

snippercr 05-07-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by basesjuiced (Post 1875524)
yah skywest is going to take over rah's delta flying dokay!! from where, SLC? DEN? Haha, who cares how many 170's they have on order. Can order as many rj's as you want you still need pilots to fly them. simple fact of the matter is delta couldn't yank rah's flying and just hand it to some other regional and see the reliability and efficiency improve. the only hope any regional has today of attracting enough pilots to fly their crappy flying is quick upgrades and that ship has sailed for most.

Tell that to PSA, Mesa, Compass and Transstates. They all offer quick upgrade and are filling their classes.

NVUS 05-07-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by basesjuiced (Post 1875524)
yah skywest is going to take over rah's delta flying dokay!! from where, SLC? DEN? Haha, who cares how many 170's they have on order. Can order as many rj's as you want you still need pilots to fly them. simple fact of the matter is delta couldn't yank rah's flying and just hand it to some other regional and see the reliability and efficiency improve. the only hope any regional has today of attracting enough pilots to fly their crappy flying is quick upgrades and that ship has sailed for most.

Sir, yes sir. But I'm pretty sure the XJT operation could fill in for YX/S5 as soon as United says the word...with their own E-175s to boot. The largest 50-seat pilot group in the country. United wants to slash those E-145s. You get the picture.

TurbineTime 05-07-2015 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1875525)
Tell that to PSA, Mesa, Compass and Transstates. They all offer quick upgrade and are filling their classes.

Republic's upgrade time is dropping rapidly with the 145's staying onboard. That coupled with what I believe will be an industry leading contract could very well change the game. Everything is cyclical in this industry, and that cycle is about to hit republic. The word is that there are new cpa's coming republics way, but they must settle their labor issue before they can be awarded. It wouldn't surprise me at all if more flying was awarded soon after the contract is settled.

Justrun 05-07-2015 08:33 AM

There might be enough rejects and lateral movement to staff them. These types of applicants are still finding there way to other bottom feeders.


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