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snippercr 05-07-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1875708)
Extended THIRTY EIGHT 145's to 2021 AND awarded 9 more 175's.

So minus 30 Dash-8s, add 50 175s for United, 9 more for (Delta?), plus maintaining current 145 compliment?

TillerEnvy 05-07-2015 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by ThreeStripe (Post 1875633)
The gentleman from XJT is correct sir. The E170 program has been completed for some time now to the point of needing the actual plane to continue. Not every regional operates like bedford's big top circus. Some think ahead.

Lol. Uh ok. Whatever you say. Then you should be getting them any day, right? So you even have Sim time blocked and ready to go, huh? CKA all ready (even with zero time in the plane)? Please. XJT at the bare minimums are mid 2016 before you'd be ready for it. You're being lied to in order to get suckers to stay there.

tothebigblue 05-07-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1875744)
Lol. Uh ok. Whatever you say. Then you should be getting them any day, right?

Whenever republic loses their contract...Take the blinders off your eyes my friend, S5 has worse CCF than C5....they are canceling flights left and right for NO CREWS. There is NOTHING to attract pilots (no cancelation pay, no dead head pay, terrible benefits) and you're saying that Shuttle and RAH will be able to staff MORE airplanes...writing is on the wall. not saying the flying will go to XJT but its better staffed than S5 and ready to go. I dont know why you have a hard on to say that it couldn't possibly happen.

CFIGUY22 05-07-2015 03:40 PM

Am I missing something? Doesn't RAH own their own airplanes? Even if the contract was terminated the other airline that received the flying would have to order planes since the airframes are owned by RAH.

TurbineTime 05-07-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1875752)
Whenever republic loses their contract...Take the blinders off your eyes my friend, S5 has worse CCF than C5....they are canceling flights left and right for NO CREWS. There is NOTHING to attract pilots (no cancelation pay, no dead head pay, terrible benefits) and you're saying that Shuttle and RAH will be able to staff MORE airplanes...writing is on the wall. not saying the flying will go to XJT but its better staffed than S5 and ready to go. I dont know why you have a hard on to say that it couldn't possibly happen.

Question 1. If somehow you all are able to instantly jump start a new 175 program, where are you getting 50 of them from in time to make a difference? Because as previously stated, our 50 are owned by RAH, not united. I doubt they would be for sale.

Question 2. Why are you so hellbent on RAH losing our contract and picking up our flying? I believe the only two regionals left that said no to garbage contracts are expressjet and.... wait for it... Republic. We are very close to a new TA, which will have to be good, or this pilot group will say no, again. Might that be a good thing for you and the rest of the industry if we are able to raise the bar??

PilotCrusader 05-07-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1875760)
Am I missing something? Doesn't RAH own their own airplanes? Even if the contract was terminated the other airline that received the flying would have to order planes since the airframes are owned by RAH.

So RAH will just let airplanes sit in the desert, "in spite".

CFIGUY22 05-07-2015 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1875763)
So RAH will just let airplanes sit in the desert, "in spite".

No they could exercise some options with another one of the 3 carriers they use to buy them time. Just a theory.

Drofdeb 05-07-2015 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by TurbineTime (Post 1875762)
Question 1. If somehow you all are able to instantly jump start a new 175 program, where are you getting 50 of them from in time to make a difference? Because as previously stated, our 50 are owned by RAH, not united. I doubt they would be for sale.

Question 2. Why are you so hellbent on RAH losing our contract and picking up our flying? I believe the only two regionals left that said no to garbage contracts are expressjet and.... wait for it... Republic. We are very close to a new TA, which will have to be good, or this pilot group will say no, again. Might that be a good thing for you and the rest of the industry if we are able to raise the bar??

That's how a lot of pilots think. Its either:

As long as I got mine, I do not give a rodent's behind about you.
or Oh my, he's got it good, how do I bring him down to my level. Lots of crab mentality.
or If I post misleading info on APC, I will lure more suckers to join my airline, thus enhancing my own position. Pass the koolaid.

There is a lot of chaff to sift through, to get to the grains.

Its the newbies who pay the price. They will rue the day they made their decisions based on all the self-serving info posted here.

morerightrudder 05-07-2015 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr
So minus 30 Dash-8s, add 50 175s for United, 9 more for (Delta?), plus maintaining current 145 compliment?

You're off by a few Q400s, but RAH is also parking their 5 E-190s currently used for charters, so the total is pretty much correct.



Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 (Post 1875760)
Am I missing something? Doesn't RAH own their own airplanes? Even if the contract was terminated the other airline that received the flying would have to order planes since the airframes are owned by RAH.

They own most of their airplanes, including all of the 50 going to the new UAL Shuttle Republic flying. But UAL holds a bunch of options on E-175s, so if UAL wanted to give E175 flying to another carrier, they would just exercise those options. That was how SkyWest and Mesa got their 175s. Not sure what DAL would do.

spaaks 05-07-2015 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by TurbineTime (Post 1875762)
Question 1. If somehow you all are able to instantly jump start a new 175 program, where are you getting 50 of them from in time to make a difference? Because as previously stated, our 50 are owned by RAH, not united. I doubt they would be for sale.

Question 2. Why are you so hellbent on RAH losing our contract and picking up our flying? I believe the only two regionals left that said no to garbage contracts are expressjet and.... wait for it... Republic. We are very close to a new TA, which will have to be good, or this pilot group will say no, again. Might that be a good thing for you and the rest of the industry if we are able to raise the bar??

skywest Inc. does have those 53 delivery slots still locked up, just saying


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