Airline pilot is stricken after takeoff, dies
01-21-2007, 10:08 AM
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CAL 757/767's do not have two tillers. You can take a high speed taxiway with rudder only. I'm sure the checkairman did everything he could. He may have been in the left seat for the landing and taxi for all we know. Removing the CA from his seat (with help from the crew) and doing CPR or something to help him would be a smart move. CAL has defibrillators onboard.
01-21-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocipede
You're not going to try to taxi the jet into a gate. You're going to get off the runway, out of the way and stop until help arrives. Any F/O can do that with the rudder pedals.
Unless you're in a CRJ or something with built in airstairs (727), help is going to arrive a lot faster at a jetbridge than out on the taxiway.
01-21-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
I know that I would taxi as close to services as possible if it could be done safely... That might not be possible in this situation, given that the remaining pilot was on the FO side, but had it been the right seater that was incapacitated, I see no reason to taxi into the gate...
Unless you're in a CRJ or something with built in airstairs (727), help is going to arrive a lot faster at a jetbridge than out on the taxiway.
Unless you're in a CRJ or something with built in airstairs (727), help is going to arrive a lot faster at a jetbridge than out on the taxiway.
01-21-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
NO WAY MAN,, then you will have to wait for a jet bridge driver,, and we know how reliable they are!!!
01-21-2007, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
Not to mention a marshaller to get you into the gate...
01-21-2007, 03:48 PM
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sux to hear, can see the effects of it on the age 60 rule already...that one might end up in stone...again.
And to the comment about getting "PIC time" i'm not going to jump on your case, cause it's a joke that's been made about every day in the flying community, only difference is here it actually took place...although, i thought i'd keep it to myself, maybe you shoulda done the same. eh, i dunno.
Best wishes and regards to the family and friends of that fellow aviator.
And to the comment about getting "PIC time" i'm not going to jump on your case, cause it's a joke that's been made about every day in the flying community, only difference is here it actually took place...although, i thought i'd keep it to myself, maybe you shoulda done the same. eh, i dunno.
Best wishes and regards to the family and friends of that fellow aviator.
01-21-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Thats too bad, just think of what its gonna do for the age 60 rule 
When I was flying (in undesirable weather) as a private pilot, a woman came on the unicom and announced that her husband died (pilot) and she didn't know how to fly the plane. She did not survive the crash. Obviously she wasn't trained as the CAL co-pilot (airline check), but she and her family suffered a great loss. Training and experience is priceless.
No doubt a terrible loss for the [CAL pilot's] family, but keep in mind the co-pilot that was with him. I am sure he is going through a difficult time right now. I can bet he wishes he could have done anything to avoid the outcome.
My prayers are with all that this death has touched which is all of us.
In sympathy,
PaintCan
01-21-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
What if this was a Pinnacle flight with a 280 wonder or a Jet University guy? Think the outcome would have been the same?
01-21-2007, 04:02 PM
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Without a doubt, yes. It may not have been pretty, but it would be safe. The big difference between a veteran and a new-hire at a regional would be evident in how the situation would be handled with regards to the company procedures and such. For example, would a pilot new to the airline environment remember to notify dispatch for an ammended release? Maybe... but maybe not. But the same person would do just fine getting the aircraft down on the ground safely. By the time a new hire gets to IOE, they have some idea of what's going on - certainly enough to handle the situation.
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