Airline pilot is stricken after takeoff, dies
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#22
This is a point that has been argued many times at many airlines... personally I think its wrong that 280 hour wonders are doing anything but CFI'ing and I would have some serious doubts as to whether or not a 280 hour wonder could handle this type of situation and I know I wouldn't want myself or my family in the back of an airplane that would now be down to a 280 hr wonder at the helm..... It's not just the being able to physically fly the plane there is also a lot of coordination, decision making and judgement that goes into a situation like this. On a side note I have said it before and I will say it again I view it highly unethical and to a stretch immoral that airlines are willing to go along with this preferential highing BULL $HIT... If somebody wants to go to an academy and get their CFI and learn in a structured program good for them but I say one hiring standard for all..... academy or not..
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I won't argue that 280 hrs. is low for an airline environment. I'm sure most people have heard the saying, "I got my Private in 50 hrs. but I didn't learn to fly until I had 500 or 1000." However, even a "280 hr. wonder" could land the aircraft at a somewhat suitable airport. Some of the other decisions would most likely be overlooked but I doubt anyone would be injured.
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I won't argue that 280 hrs. is low for an airline environment. I'm sure most people have heard the saying, "I got my Private in 50 hrs. but I didn't learn to fly until I had 500 or 1000." However, even a "280 hr. wonder" could land the aircraft at a somewhat suitable airport. Some of the other decisions would most likely be overlooked but I doubt anyone would be injured.
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very true. Landing a seminole, and landing a plane that can carry the weight of a seminole(max weight) in its cargo bin are way different. I am not completely sold that someone with 280 hours could do it in a safe manner. if you were to take off in a crj from mem to bos, you are at about 53000lbs. if that were to happen after take off and you had to return, not only would you be over max landing weight, but your vref speed would be around 157. that could turn into one INTERSTING landing.
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Come on people, its amazing how quickly something like this can bring the politics of a completely unrelated issue into the fold. A fellow pilot is gone because of something out of his control.....have some respect and dont interject politics when its not even remotely appropriate....
#28
I think what i am finding most amazing is that there are no news stories on this happening. I have been looking through all the major news sources, MSNBC being my primary source for aviation news, and not a peep about what happened.
Odd how they choose not to cover issues like this, but beat the heck out of every other negative event.
Odd how they choose not to cover issues like this, but beat the heck out of every other negative event.
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I think what i am finding most amazing is that there are no news stories on this happening. I have been looking through all the major news sources, MSNBC being my primary source for aviation news, and not a peep about what happened.
Odd how they choose not to cover issues like this, but beat the heck out of every other negative event.
Odd how they choose not to cover issues like this, but beat the heck out of every other negative event.
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Why wouldn't it be? Landing an aircraft isn't exactly rocket science, and you do it a bunch of times in the sim before you ever get out to the line (not to mention in the 600 hrs leading up to hire)... it might not be pretty but I have no doubt that the flight would make it to the ground...
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