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billyho 02-21-2016 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 2072603)
This is good news for the top of XJT list, not for new hires.

Why wouldn't it be good for the new hires? The American flow with the WO's it's works out great. Top senior people leave, and the junior people upgrade faster, get more money and have a better QOL due to moving up in the seniority. Win Win!!!

wmupilot85 02-21-2016 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 2072616)
Why wouldn't it be good for the new hires? The American flow with the WO's it's works out great. Top senior people leave, and the junior people upgrade faster, get more money and have a better QOL due to moving up in the seniority. Win Win!!!

Only if you can hire to replace what's leaving.

billyho 02-21-2016 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2072623)
Only if you can hire to replace what's leaving.

Yes and that's going to be a big issue by the end of this year. :eek:

dfwflyboy 02-21-2016 07:33 AM

This is a retention scheme to keep FOs and CAs from leaving to other majors. XJT had about 650 leave last year and as of Feb 1st, 94!!! they are hoping pilots won't leave until they get a united shot. Expect 1000 pilots at United= 250 pilot interviews (and probably hired). that sure beats 650+ moving on to spirit, allegiant, atlas, etc

Otterbox 02-21-2016 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 2072630)
Yes and that's going to be a big issue by the end of this year. :eek:

Throwing money at the problem works, I'm a huge fan of the flow but unfortunately I can't afford a 65k paycut to take it right now without losing my home and car. I'm pretty sure there are many out there that feel the same way, until the pay or bonuses get better they'll have problems staffing the WOs and flow through airlines.

I'm sure the bean counters have figured out exactly what pay is required to attract the staffing they need if they really wanted to.

billyho 02-21-2016 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2072665)
Throwing money at the problem works, I'm a huge fan of the flow but unfortunately I can't afford a 65k paycut to take it right now without losing my home and car. I'm pretty sure there are many out there that feel the same way, until the pay or bonuses get better they'll have problems staffing the WOs and flow through airlines.

I'm sure the bean counters have figured out exactly what pay is required to attract the staffing they need if they really wanted to.

Throwing money might work for awhile, but you still have to remember there's only so many pilots left.

There only seems to be a couple of options left. One is for the Majors to allow a few contract carriers to go out of business and hope there pilots flood to their feed carriers. Another way is for the majors to purchase a few carriers to protect their feed.

In the end it will mean hopefully less regional flying and that might be good for everyone. You might in the future see all flying done by WO'ed carriers and pilots with seniority numbers flying for their respective mainline carrier.

24/48 02-21-2016 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Hercdaddy22 (Post 2072322)
Received the news yesterday. Guaranteed interview, not a flow, with United that is seniority based for the ERJ United operation. Sounds like the same deal that Commutair has. Details to follow this upcoming week.

It's been a good week for the Acey crowd. No more jepps, contract extension passed, and United Pathway Program. Finally some good news.

Not so much for the original Acey guys & gals, looks like they were hung out to dry on this one.

Nevets 02-21-2016 03:05 PM

XJT Guaranteed Interview at United?!
 

Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2072483)
Last year they took around 150 pilots from XJT. I don't know the total amount of pilots United hired last year, but I would guess around 850.

Pretty close estimates. There were 836 total pilots hired at UAL last year and 148 of them from xjt (over 50 from the CRJ side).

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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2072652)
This is a retention scheme to keep FOs and CAs from leaving to other majors. XJT had about 650 leave last year and as of Feb 1st, 94!!! they are hoping pilots won't leave until they get a united shot. Expect 1000 pilots at United= 250 pilot interviews (and probably hired). that sure beats 650+ moving on to spirit, allegiant, atlas, etc

685 left xjt from the ERJ side and 312 from the CRJ side.


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Riverside 02-21-2016 04:14 PM

How do you get a UA job at 24 and or 1500 hours?

WakeWash 02-21-2016 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2072851)
How do you get a UA job at 24 and or 1500 hours?

The 24 year old was a PSA pilot who was really in good with head of HR there from what I understand. The 1500 hour I'm guessing is someone military.


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