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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2086638)

and a compass FO will not be on 3rd year FO pay

Things change. Always expect you will be on FO pay. If/when you upgrade that is just icing on the cake.

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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 2086553)

The top chart has them listed as 22, 26 and 29 which is not what APC has.

Mesa numbers are correct:

Thanks for you feedback. I double checked. The numbers are correct.

Year 1 22 X 75 X 12 months = $19.8 + $2.5 bonus = $22.3K
Year 2 29 X 75 X 12 months = $26.1K
Year 3. 32 X 75 X 12 months = $28.8K

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Originally Posted by Base2Final (Post 2086556)

RAH rates are correct on bottom chart, but don't correlate on top chart. Fwiw.

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Thanks for the feedback. Numbers are correct. Same formulas as above in the Mesa explanation.

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Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2086672)

That is not block or better, leg by leg.

Yes, it's leg by leg.

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Originally Posted by flying1986 (Post 2086618)

This is completely wrong. You cant just look at first year pay. Mesa has captains upgrading in four months with 121 time, twelve months with none. Which means they go to 61.44 (1st year captain) or 63.32 (2nd year captain). As well as some other regionals have the same thing going for them. Which looking at the earlier that is before compass even gets out of their 1/2 guarantee pay in training. If anything Endeavor is just trying to buy people in hopes no one realizes whats going on there. Pay isnt the reason to go to any airline. If you want to go to a major get the PIC time. If you want to be a captain at a regional and retire, make sure the regionals structure can actually support a long term growth plan. Too many regionals are publicly saying they are parking planes. Look at the 10k's! That means less pilots at those regionals will be needed; they are only hiring for a training bubble, which will burst, or attrition which should also make you wonder.

Thanks for your feedback.

The numbers are correct. Directly off of APC. These are FIRST OFFICER pay rates. NOT Captain pay rates. Upgrades are a constantly changing target. Please read the narrative at the top of the chart. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Skyler02 (Post 2086680)

Remember also, the tax rate for bonuses is 25%

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Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2086691)

Remember also, the tax rate for bonuses is 25%

Thanks for your feedback.

At the end of the year bonuses are taxed at the same rate as other income. It is apples to apples.

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Originally Posted by flying1986 (Post 2086618)

I always love the argument: But look how much you will make as a captain when you upgrade, and it will be a quick upgrade hopefully.
I don't understand how people can defend the lowest paid regional. The
only reason pay has gotten better is because pilots are becoming a hot commodity and your trying to reverse that trend by saying its ok to be the
worst. Fast upgrades are coming to all regionals. Why do it for nothing.

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Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2086662)

We get credit (based on historical credit) or block, whichever is better.

If everyone flies fast, you get less than scheduled block, regardless of how slow you fly. Everyone has to fly slow to increase the historical average in order to get better than scheduled block.

At xjt if you fly fast you still get scheduled block. If you fly slow you get paid YOUR actual block, independent of what everyone else flies. That's "true block or better" vs "SGU block or better".

Thanks for taking the time and effort to put this all together.

One thing that is so hard to track that I wish we could have in there, Is the cost of the insurance.

People should consider the cost of their insurance as part of their compensation package. Even if You make an upgrade quicker at one place, you are going backwards if the cost of benefits is so high, a huge percentage of your pay raise is non-existant.