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Old 05-16-2016 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoser
WW2 Zero was pretty darn good. Pretty sure it was built by Mitsubishi along with many other aircraft.
OK, so the zero gave us a pretty good run for our money in WW2. But post WW2 you don't hear much about mitsubishi aircraft other than a lot of MU-2 crashes. Maybe it's unfair that the MU-2 got a bad wrap, but the thing is a death trap when pilots are flying it without special training and currency requirements that other small turbo props simply do not have. The MRJ is the first jet, and fist plane in decades.
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Old 05-16-2016 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I would think by now we have learned our lesson with scope.
We would all hope. The fact remains that a majority of the voters are the same exact people that voted for scope concessions in the past. And a majority of pilots haven't worked for the 'modern' regionals... They either came up through the traditional tprop commuters, or came from the military and have never touched an RJ in their life, and do not know how vastly different regional carriers are from their own airline. In the past these people sold us down river, and I don't see them standing up for the industry when a carrot benefiting them financially is being dangled in front of them. That carrot may need to be bigger than it was in the past, but their votes have been bought in the past, and they can be bought again.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Skittles9E
Any of our brethren over at Skywest or Trans States have any idea or speculation as to what's going to go down with the MRJ orders. It's highly doubtful that mainline pilots will relax scope and the deliveries are set to start in the next couple of years. I think personally they should be flown by mainline, the less jumbo RJ's the better. Thoughts?

http://atwonline.com/blog/will-scope-clause-issue-muddle-mitsubishi-regional-jet-s-service-entry
The people over at Skywest already think they're "mainline" so I doubt they think scope will affect them
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Old 05-17-2016 | 06:13 AM
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Mainline doesn't have a choice. There won't be enough Pilot's to fly these at the regional level even with scope relief.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe
The people over at Skywest already think they're "mainline" so I doubt they think scope will affect them
Some indeed do, but that's more of a pride thing.
SkyWest = A regional airline in my eyes as it does for most who work here. That doesn't mean I'm not happy with the time I've spent here, but it is the reality.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TogaParty
Some indeed do, but that's more of a pride thing.
SkyWest = A regional airline in my eyes as it does for most who work here. That doesn't mean I'm not happy with the time I've spent here, but it is the reality.
I am based at MSP for 9E, 1 in 20 SkyWest pilots will look you in the eye
and nod back. Even mainline pilots are closer to 1/2.
I see it as insecurity or immaturity certainly not pride.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
I am based at MSP for 9E, 1 in 20 SkyWest pilots will look you in the eye
and nod back. Even mainline pilots are closer to 1/2.
I see it as insecurity or immaturity certainly not pride.
This sounds completely scientific. Give me a break.
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Old 05-17-2016 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
I am based at MSP for 9E, 1 in 20 SkyWest pilots will look you in the eye
and nod back. Even mainline pilots are closer to 1/2.
I see it as insecurity or immaturity certainly not pride.
Yes the inevitable passing of the pilots. That awkward moment when you turn into a worried wreck, will he be cool, well he look the other way? Should I change my walk path, I mean I'm nice but I don't feel like saying hi right now. Oh nooo here he comes ohhhhhh

Give us a break man. Who cares???
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Old 05-17-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
We (pilots) do not want to dump the 190. This is a management decision. Something has to replace the flying though. The 319 is used for this flying as well. We don't retire them until the end of 2019 so I hope we see a replacement at mainline by then. I would think by now we have learned our lesson with scope.
Relax MR Czervik we will not get them. And you will get your Airbus class soon enough. Don't worry...
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Old 05-17-2016 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Relax MR Czervik we will not get them. And you will get your Airbus class soon enough. Don't worry...
you missed the point. this isn't a "us vs. you" thing. we want jobs here for everyone. small narrowbody is a big fight to get the jobs here.
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