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wmupilot85 07-18-2016 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2163395)
Why do you say it's smart to not take on flying. Granted you can't staff it today, but doesn't extra flying usually come first before staffing ramps up? I don't know but it looks like that's how Skywest is doing it. Pretty damn sure if they wanted to entice people to Express Jet they'd find a way

And Skywest is startiing to falter on the flying that they've committed to as well.


Originally Posted by stanthecaddy (Post 2163424)
Exactly. Trust me if you announce new dual class flying the airline will staff.( I.e. PSA 3 years ago). No one is gonna go to a place that has no erj flying past 2017 unless an announcement is made.

IIRC, the ERJ renewal talks don't even begin until later this year. So that would be why they don't have anything slated for further out yet. But yet, the doom and gloom of many kill this airline. I'm not saying that we don't have our problems, as we do, but we are still in a much better position that many others as well.

And as far as upgrade time goes, the CRJ side will be about 6 years within the next year.

word302 07-18-2016 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2163463)
And Skywest is startiing to falter on the flying that they've committed to as well.



IIRC, the ERJ renewal talks don't even begin until later this year. So that would be why they don't have anything slated for further out yet. But yet, the doom and gloom of many kill this airline. I'm not saying that we don't have our problems, as we do, but we are still in a much better position that many others as well.

And as far as upgrade time goes, the CRJ side will be about 6 years within the next year.

Oh really?

And 6 years is something to look forward to?

DL31082 07-19-2016 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2163395)
Why do you say it's smart to not take on flying. Granted you can't staff it today, but doesn't extra flying usually come first before staffing ramps up? I don't know but it looks like that's how Skywest is doing it. Pretty damn sure if they wanted to entice people to Express Jet they'd find a way

Now that the rate reset is done and supposedly postive it would probably be a good idea to bring on a limited amount of new airplanes. I believe we have a chicken or the egg problem here. If they announce more airplanes we would probably get new hires, but they aren't willing to take those new airplanes because they are afraid that the new hires wont come.

Before LOA 15 we probably would not have gotten the new hires even if we got new airplanes. Our new hire pay was one of the lowest in the industry and our upgrade time still would have been at least 3 or 4 years. Now that new hire pay is 37 for the 200 and 40 for the 70/90, I think that if they announnced growth we would be able to get the new hires.

Again this is all just opinion. I hope something good happens. I'm coming up on 4 years here and have no desire to go to another regional to get PIC time. I've already done the lateral move thing once, I'm not going to do it again.

Der Meister 07-19-2016 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2163463)
IIRC, the ERJ renewal talks don't even begin until later this year. So that would be why they don't have anything slated for further out yet. But yet, the doom and gloom of many kill this airline. I'm not saying that we don't have our problems, as we do, but we are still in a much better position that many others as well.

Guess big U's fleet plan of 125, 50 seat RJ's by the end of 17 is nothing at all to worry about.
Thats what the first class passengers said on the titanic as well.

wmupilot85 07-19-2016 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 2163936)
Guess big U's fleet plan of 125, 50 seat RJ's by the end of 17 is nothing at all to worry about.
Thats what the first class passengers said on the titanic as well.

Could be good, or could be bad for the ERJ side. Plus, that is a plan that is 15 months away, a lot can change between now and then.

ag386 07-19-2016 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2164022)
Could be good, or could be bad for the ERJ side. Plus, that is a plan that is 15 months away, a lot can change between now and then.

I don't think I would plan my career starting at an already dying regional on assumptions that may or may not happen.

wmupilot85 07-19-2016 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2164055)
I don't think I would plan my career starting at an already dying regional on assumptions that may or may not happen.

Once again, is XJT all ERJ's, or is there a CRJ side with contracts that go for much longer?

dfwflyboy 07-19-2016 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2163463)
And Skywest is startiing to falter on the flying that they've committed to as well.



IIRC, the ERJ renewal talks don't even begin until later this year. So that would be why they don't have anything slated for further out yet. But yet, the doom and gloom of many kill this airline. I'm not saying that we don't have our problems, as we do, but we are still in a much better position that many others as well.

And as far as upgrade time goes, the CRJ side will be about 6 years within the next year.

unless they cancel the position notices come november. I'm at almost 9 years and still can't hold junior CA. I don't think the company really wants to upgrade anyone right now. More FOs leaving than CAs

idlethrust 07-19-2016 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2164205)
unless they cancel the position notices come november. I'm at almost 9 years and still can't hold junior CA. I don't think the company really wants to upgrade anyone right now. More FOs leaving than CAs

9 years?Cant hold CA?? Wow.unless you live in base and dont want the headache of commuting ,why stick around?You can easily get a DEC position somewhere else im sure.
Even if i lived in base,after 9 years its probably time to move on in order to escape severe vareer stagnation.


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