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Old 02-13-2007, 08:43 AM
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I want to be there when Fosters and SAABaroowski meet in person. I think that could turn into a pay-per-view event.
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I want to be there when Fosters and SAABaroowski meet in person. I think that could turn into a pay-per-view event.
Oh yeah. And I'll bring the camera. You could sell that clip with lots of profit! How shall we call it?
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
good question I alwasy get differnt answers, but technically CFI'ing is really utilizing you COMM ticket, its using your CFI so I dunno
well in order to use your CFI cert you need your comm cert cause the CFI aint valid w/o the comm so i'd say you are breakin the rules but what they dont know cant hurt them
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
You are not exercising the privilages of your commercial certificate to be a CFI. This is why you can do it with a 3rd class medical. Flight instruction is the only job you can get paid to do and it not be considered commercial flying. If it was you would be in violation of the limits placed on a commercial certificate. You would be "holding out" which can even be described as "general knowledge you are for hire". Call your local FSDO to ask.

Well you can get pait one other way.... that I know of. Who know's what it is? Hint:You can do it with only a private pilot.
they why is it a requirement to have your comm before you can apply for the CFI cert?
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:49 AM
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Id beat em with a bat, I dont think FOSTERS realizes that Italians from the Northeast have an attitude problem to begin with, throw in some 20 inch biceps and a bad day, forget bout it
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Food for though here for fosters ans saab....... you don't need a medical to flight instruct (to my knowledge) as long as the student has one and is PIC. Not having a medical makes your comm certificate invalid. Your CFI has to be current but that is about it. Also, you can instruct on a 3rd class medical which only give you private pilot privileges not comm. Caution ....... your entering the gray area of the FAA.
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Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 View Post
they why is it a requirement to have your comm before you can apply for the CFI cert?
Look here oh young one, hes right so stop jumping on the bandwagon.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ANPBird View Post
Food for though here for fosters ans saab....... you don't need a medical to flight instruct (to my knowledge) as long as the student has one and is PIC. Not having a medical makes your comm certificate invalid. Your CFI has to be current but that is about it. Also, you can instruct on a 3rd class medical which only give you private pilot privileges not comm. Caution ....... your entering the gray area of the FAA.
Very true inded, but what FOSTERS doesnt understand is that a CFI is a certificate not a license, while a Coomerical is a license, so when you are CFIing, you are exercsing your CFI Certificate, not flying around people/prodcut for hire
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
You are not exercising the privilages of your commercial certificate to be a CFI. This is why you can do it with a 3rd class medical.
No, you can do it with a 3rd class medical because the FAR 61.23 (b) (5) allows you to do with without a medical. It's called and exemption.

Flight instruction is the only job you can get paid to do and it not be considered commercial flying. If it was you would be in violation of the limits placed on a commercial certificate. You would be "holding out" which can even be described as "general knowledge you are for hire". Call your local FSDO to ask.
You can "hold out" and do all sorts of flying. Ferry flights, Aerial photography, sightseeing flights, etc. They are all commercial operations (ie they would require a commercial license to do) but the exemptions for them, as well as instructing, are contained in Part 119 - CERTIFICATION: AIR CARRIERS AND COMMERCIAL OPERATORS.
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To be honest it's one of those rules that could be argued forever. I once called 3 FSDO's and got 3 different answers on what was required for a high altitude endorsement.

Anyway the only way the FAA could allow guys to be CFI's was to make a loophole I think. Most of us are considered independent contractors which would violate commercial rules. As a CFI you can post leaflets or business cards or whatever. As far as the FAA is concerned it doesn't violate any hours. But your regional might have it's own issues. I know a buddy of mine who just got hired on by IFL group for Falcons wasn't allowed to be a CFI during his spare time for a 135 operation. Just part of the company rules.

But 2 guys for Pinnacle and 1 for ExpressJet were CFI's on the side with no issues with the company.
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