Part 121 & CFIing
02-13-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguyniner11
they why is it a requirement to have your comm before you can apply for the CFI cert?
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02-13-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
As a CFI you are able to teach commercial students once you have 400hrs instruction given. Because of that you need to be able to do the commercial maneuvers and have knowledge over the commercial subjects. For your CFI checkride you do it to commercial standards. Those are the highest standards you can teach to.
02-13-2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
while a Coomerical is a license, so when you are CFIing, you are exercsing your CFI Certificate, not flying around people/prodcut for hire
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Section III of my Commercial certificate:
III Certificate Number ########
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Another example:
§ 61.121 Applicability.
This subpart prescribes the requirements for the issuance of commercial pilot certificates and ratings, the conditions under which those certificates and ratings are necessary, and the general operating rules for persons who hold those certificates and ratings.
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The commercial is a certificate, so is the CFI, which blows your entire argument. Give it up man.
02-13-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
No, you can do it with a 3rd class medical because the FAR 61.23 (b) (5) allows you to do with without a medical. It's called and exemption.
You can "hold out" and do all sorts of flying. Ferry flights, Aerial photography, sightseeing flights, etc. They are all commercial operations (ie they would require a commercial license to do) but the exemptions for them, as well as instructing, are contained in Part 119 - CERTIFICATION: AIR CARRIERS AND COMMERCIAL OPERATORS.
02-13-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
Printed on the back of my CFI certificate, under section XIII: Limitations:
"Valid only when accompanied by pilot certificate No. ########. Expires: [date]"
The number that follows is my commercial certificate number.
My question to you, if you are only utilizing your CFI license, why are you required to carry and have your commercial license?
"Valid only when accompanied by pilot certificate No. ########. Expires: [date]"
The number that follows is my commercial certificate number.
My question to you, if you are only utilizing your CFI license, why are you required to carry and have your commercial license?
02-13-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ANPBird
Is this new? Since when do you need 400 hrs of duel to give comm instruction?
Fosters I guess you could say they are all certificates. A certificate is nothing. I could get a certificate for 30% off at Macy's. It's a physical representation of something. The commercial certicicate is a license. The CFI certificate is a rating.
02-13-2007, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
As a CFI you are able to teach commercial students once you have 400hrs instruction given.
Those are the highest standards you can teach to.
SAAB, you're backing this guy up? Almost nothing he has said is correct.
02-13-2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Ahh my bad that's to teach cfi initiats. I'm goin to fix that. Rules are getting jumbled up
02-13-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Depends on the circumstances. If someone comes out and says, "hey I bought a plane and I want you to ferry it from point A to B for $250" and you say "No $300" it's illegal.
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