Advice on DFW
08-21-2016 | 07:09 PM
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I'd go to either one. I rode JS on a Xjet recently and they're a great bunch of guys. They are really helpful on getting me to where I need to be every time. On the other hand I have "heard" they are giving the 145s back to envoy and more than likely the DFW base. That's speculation but we can all do the math. Kind of a bummer because regardless of who you work for you never want to see that happen to anyone. As for me I commute out of DFW and all I can say is if you're looking for QOL dude go to ENY. Bottom line. I'll give it time before I decide to make a change. Best of luck to you and to everyone.
Not speculation on planes. The envoy birds that went to xjt are going back to envoy. 14 of them. Not sure about the xjt dfw base though.
08-22-2016 | 07:02 AM
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Just to clarify, as weird as it might sound, I actually meant it. If DFW is your priority go to Envoy.
I keep hearing that the ExpressJet 145 DFW base is going to close soon. Wasn't it supposed to be a temporary base from the beginning anyways?
ExpressJet L-ASA also have a CRJ-200 base at DFW, I don't know much about it. But aren't the CRJ side and the ERJ side at ExpressJet pretty much 2 completely different airlines?
Mesa has a CRJ900 base there, which could potentially stick around longer than the ExpressJet CRJ and ERJ bases. But I can tell you first hand that Mesa is not so great of a company to work for, particularly at DFW. Mesa only truly works for a very specific group of individuals.
Envoy is the only American WO at DFW (AA's largest hub, and headquarter city...). They have a very long history at DFW and are also headquartered in the city. Also, unlike ExpressJet in IAH, they are not a 50-seater only airline, and are taking E-175 deliveries. I think is pretty safe to say that if DFW is your priority Envoy is the logical choice. Like I said Envoy is DFW's regional.
I keep hearing that the ExpressJet 145 DFW base is going to close soon. Wasn't it supposed to be a temporary base from the beginning anyways?
ExpressJet L-ASA also have a CRJ-200 base at DFW, I don't know much about it. But aren't the CRJ side and the ERJ side at ExpressJet pretty much 2 completely different airlines?
Mesa has a CRJ900 base there, which could potentially stick around longer than the ExpressJet CRJ and ERJ bases. But I can tell you first hand that Mesa is not so great of a company to work for, particularly at DFW. Mesa only truly works for a very specific group of individuals.
Envoy is the only American WO at DFW (AA's largest hub, and headquarter city...). They have a very long history at DFW and are also headquartered in the city. Also, unlike ExpressJet in IAH, they are not a 50-seater only airline, and are taking E-175 deliveries. I think is pretty safe to say that if DFW is your priority Envoy is the logical choice. Like I said Envoy is DFW's regional.
08-22-2016 | 07:39 AM
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In regards to the XJT EMB-145 DFW flying...
"Fellow Pilots,
The Company announced this morning the repatriation of some flying lost a few years ago to ExpressJet Airlines. Both our aircraft, and our routes, will begin returning home next February through June. The announcement today is largely due to the extraordinary job our pilots have done over the past year as we have played a vital role in making our carrier an industry-leading performer. AAG has noticed. 14 aircraft mean (roughly) 70 more First Officer positions and 70 more Captain positions. This also means that all of AAG’s E140/E145 flying in DFW will be handled by Envoy, which should lead to improved schedules."
No idea what's going on with the XJT CRJ DFW flying. It was set to expire in 2017, but there's talks of them renewing it or adding bigger aircraft. So, who knows.
No idea what's going on with Mesa and DFW.
All 40 -175s are slated to come to DFW now. Maybe they'll be flying through MIA a lot or maybe a new -175 base will open soon.
That's DFW in a nutshell for you. If you're trying to steer clear of the regionals, Ameriflight and martinair operate out of DFW, and empire operates out of AFW. Or try out spirit if you have the time. Good luck!
"Fellow Pilots,
The Company announced this morning the repatriation of some flying lost a few years ago to ExpressJet Airlines. Both our aircraft, and our routes, will begin returning home next February through June. The announcement today is largely due to the extraordinary job our pilots have done over the past year as we have played a vital role in making our carrier an industry-leading performer. AAG has noticed. 14 aircraft mean (roughly) 70 more First Officer positions and 70 more Captain positions. This also means that all of AAG’s E140/E145 flying in DFW will be handled by Envoy, which should lead to improved schedules."
No idea what's going on with the XJT CRJ DFW flying. It was set to expire in 2017, but there's talks of them renewing it or adding bigger aircraft. So, who knows.
No idea what's going on with Mesa and DFW.
All 40 -175s are slated to come to DFW now. Maybe they'll be flying through MIA a lot or maybe a new -175 base will open soon.
That's DFW in a nutshell for you. If you're trying to steer clear of the regionals, Ameriflight and martinair operate out of DFW, and empire operates out of AFW. Or try out spirit if you have the time. Good luck!
08-22-2016 | 05:36 PM
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Why would it matter if they exclusively flew 50-seat airplanes? It's not like AA needs them to turn a profit or anything.
08-22-2016 | 06:05 PM
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From: Freight 75/76 FO
You are right, I should not emphasize on the number of seats an aircraft have. Point is Envoy is renewing the fleet, which makes one think that there are long term plans for them.
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