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Originally Posted by bnkangle
(Post 2232551)
You make it sound like he should be able to walk scot-free.
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Pilot arrested
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2232244)
It is "you're", as in you are. Welcome back nevets, and watch the name calling.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/hbal.gif You are welcome, coat tail rider. And I never left. Now go ahead and tell daddy on me. I'll still be here anyway. |
The solution to this is quite clear. Instruct TSA to not get too close and start sniffing around crew members. Then we won't have this problem anymore.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 2232612)
Exactly. I'm very early on in my career. I posed this question to some of my friends last year in flight school right before we graduated and almost all of them were "throw them under the bus, call the cops". With the standards dropping at the regionals I don't think it'll be long before that line of thinking becomes standard.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2232425)
I would get very firmly behind an initiative to cap hours at 75-80/month (you can always bid up voluntarily), and have a contractual staffing ratio. I'd go for that at the expense of raises (and bonuses tied to how well the company/industry/economy are doing).
The point I was trying to make but didn't come across very clear was there is not a lot of difference between fatigue and intoxication. SW should just count themselves lucky that it is way easier to place the blame with intoxication. My feeling is that there is some type of incident waiting to happen with all the pilot pushing going on. And just like the LAX Bro jetway incident, SW will try to do everything possible to lay the blame with the pilots. PBS is a mess because of the parameters that they are forcing on it. High minimum reserve numbers which allow no schedule flexibility. People getting awarded 95 hours because min line value is 88 hours and the solution is to send an email telling people to bid smarter? My advice to everyone is to take care of yourself and your crew. Because if you are on the wrong side of a news camera, because of fatigue or alcohol, ultimately it will come back to your decision to take a seat at the controls vs calling in. |
His career isn't over--
AA/CEO dwi Douggie Parker has 3 DWI CONVICTIONS-which in my state means you have a g@d dam felony conviction, 10 years in prison, ect
Or, You could just become a top airline executive----party on Wayne!! http://stash-magazine.com/wp-content...things-020.jpg |
Originally Posted by billyho
(Post 2232055)
Anxiety? Just be responsible. There's a big difference in having a few glasses of wine or a couple of beers then dropping hammer before you fly with a 6 pack and a couple of patron's.
Know your limit and if the stars are lined up perfect with the hottest chick you ever met then go for it and call out sick the next day. Just be responsible and then you won't have any anxieties. |
Originally Posted by disillusioned
(Post 2232745)
Rickair for President!! Just having the understanding that everyone is getting worked to death is something the current prez can't comprehend. Of course, I'm sure a lot has changed since he flew the line 8 years ago. I'm sure everyone will just be happy with another 1% and a winter coat instead.
The point I was trying to make but didn't come across very clear was there is not a lot of difference between fatigue and intoxication. SW should just count themselves lucky that it is way easier to place the blame with intoxication. My feeling is that there is some type of incident waiting to happen with all the pilot pushing going on. And just like the LAX Bro jetway incident, SW will try to do everything possible to lay the blame with the pilots. PBS is a mess because of the parameters that they are forcing on it. High minimum reserve numbers which allow no schedule flexibility. People getting awarded 95 hours because min line value is 88 hours and the solution is to send an email telling people to bid smarter? My advice to everyone is to take care of yourself and your crew. Because if you are on the wrong side of a news camera, because of fatigue or alcohol, ultimately it will come back to your decision to take a seat at the controls vs calling in. Eagle used to fire people for calling in fatigued. Of course, they wouldn't come out and "admit" that was the reason, but you'd be put on a list and handled later. They pay lip service to it, but they really don't give a sh!t if you're tired or not. I'm sure the current bunch of rats running the place are cut from the same cloth. |
You can blame a whole lot of things but nobody twisted his arm and made him drink....whatever the reason.
Party-party, alcoholic, death in the family, wife left him...whatever the reason. He and only he made the choice to show up and attempt to work. Now my answer to an interview question has nothing to do with it as he didn't even make it to the plane. The TSA ( bless their little hearts ) "caught" him. Thousands of people want his job, thousands more want his career and he just threw it all away. Same as a DUI I'm simply assuming it's not the first time. It hardly ever is. He just got caught this time. Yeah go ahead and flame me for riding the no-sympathy train. |
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